Finally Guys!!! Front Mount Intercooler Installed :), wow what a difference!!!!

[mustangman]

FYI, did anyone see how much the kit is for the Protege.... $1295, $1100 seems like a deal to me.

Anyway, MS6freek, I am impressed by your work and devotion to the MS6 performance. Keep it up.

 

[MS6freek]

FYI, did anyone see how much the kit is for the Protege.... $1295, $1100 seems like a deal to me.

Anyway, MS6freek, I am impressed by your work and devotion to the MS6 performance. Keep it up.

thanks for pointing this out man , i apreciate the comment!!!

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[nvmsp]

FYI, did anyone see how much the kit is for the Protege.... $1295, $1100 seems like a deal to me.

Anyway, MS6freek, I am impressed by your work and devotion to the MS6 performance. Keep it up.

Naw I paid like $900. Just saying...

 

[MS6Future]

Steel is actually better for the cold side piping (from the IC to the motor), because the air inside the pipe will be colder than the ambient under the hood. You want to keep that air cold with as much insulation on the pipe as possible.

The ideal IC piping setup is bare aluminum for the hot side, and wrapped or ceramic coated steel for the cold side.

10-4. You make a good point.

 

[spike blue]

ok will that work in the cx-7?? i know that they are the same engines with the difference that the cx07 is detune to have 30hp less !!!

 

[MS6freek]

ok will that work in the cx-7?? i know that they are the same engines with the difference that the cx07 is detune to have 30hp less !!!

yes it will fit the cx-7 and mazdaspeed 3 as well

 

[Donas64]

Nice setup. Don't mind the haters. There will always be those who hate on those who pioneer. Enjoy your MS6.

 

[Ladyspeed6]

but looks like way too much piping.

Like Ms6freek said every turbo car with an intercooler has piping, most have front mounted turbos, (mounted in between the Engine and the Radiator)ie like the Evo, so it has a shorter distance for the pipes.
The Speed 6 Turbo is mounted on the back of the engine between the Engine and the Firewall / bulkhead, which results in the intercooler pipes being longer.

MS6freek
so with your front mount kit, do you lose the factory Lower air dam / splash guard set-up, cause it looks like in the pictures that there is no longer any room for the plastic pieces.

 

[MS6freek]

Like Ms6freek said every turbo car with an intercooler has piping, most have front mounted turbos, (mounted in between the Engine and the Radiator)ie like the Evo, so it has a shorter distance for the pipes.
The Speed 6 Turbo is mounted on the back of the engine between the Engine and the Firewall / bulkhead, which results in the intercooler pipes being longer.

MS6freek
so with your front mount kit, do you lose the factory Lower air dam / splash guard set-up, cause it looks like in the pictures that there is no longer any room for the plastic pieces.

well not really , i just took off the slash guard , but i will put it back before winter!! there is enough space ...

 

[Alfredo]

Nice job!! I love experimental projects like this!!
Why did you follow that path? You started pretty central (at turbo), then went across the motor to the right, down then left with the intercooler. You then back tracked to the right side of the motor again...
Could you just have made a loop like path where you start to left (at turbo), go across the motor and down on the left side of the motor? I know the pulleys and mounts are there, but what about past the manifold. Basically, avoiding that U-turn under the IC.
Also, is our puny turbo powerful enough to move the air all the way through efficiently? I know we all like FMIC for looks long with functionality, but I question whether a better ventalated TMIC would be just as if not more efficient.
Just my 02.
It is late, I did not spellcheck.

 

[maestro]

yes it will fit the cx-7 and mazdaspeed 3 as well

First of all compliments on your work and effort, way kool.
You would have a lot more credibiltiy if you had before and after dyno, keeping in mind that multiple runs would have to be conducted with intervals and conditions being similar so as to provide comparable data. Empirical evidence is not the best.
I doubt your price is unrealistic when factoring in time and effort as well as materials.

Secondly, how do you know it will fit the Speed 3 and CX 7? The front ends are not the same nor are the parameters of the engine compartments.

Still nice to see more effort going into making these cars faster. Nice job.
I hear another Beer calling me.

 

[ATLMZ6]

(hah)

Damn!!! no mods, no mods... gotta keep telling myself!

 

[boostdog]

This Thread is useless without a before and after dyno...yes it looks great and the price is ehhhh, but you might want to post a dyno.

 

[MS6freek]

This Thread is useless without a before and after dyno...yes it looks great and the price is ehhhh, but you might want to post a dyno.

just look at the video's you will have an idea. numbers wont prove anything!!

dyno dyno dyno do you even know why your asking that?? :bs:

 

[trees]

when will we see more of your vids P6freek?

 

[boostdog]

i am asking for a dyno for PROOF! what is wrong with that? if you are selling something that supposedly ups the hp why not be able to prove it.....hell i got a box full of electric superchargers that i can sell you.........they made my car alot faster...just take my word for it. seat of the pants performance is not a way to sell a product!

 

[MS6freek]

when will we see more of your vids P6freek?

well now its winter here , im in montreal so next year guy!! but next yeAr it will be alot better(enguard)

 

[AndrewW]

Why not just get some stainless dryer vent from Home Depot, it would look just as good. What is it with some people? I'm sure Mazda has it figured out, not some half-assed wanna be mechanical engineer.

 

[hellcat]

Wait a minute, this is the Mazda forum right? Thought I was trolling the SRT-4 board there for a minute after reading this thread.

 

[Afroman]

To answer the question of Stainless Steel vs. Aluminum I found a quick table with these thermal conductivity values.

Aluminum 117 Btu/sq ft h F ft

Carbon Steel 26 Btu/sq ft h F ft

From these very basic numbers, it appears that Aluminum will transfer more heat per square foot than carbon steel. This would mean in an intercooler the alumnum pipes would cool down hot air faster than steel( hence all radiators are Al) This also means Al pipes in an engine bay would be more suscpetable to heat soak.

For an exhaust manifold, this means a steel pipe would stay hot longer since it cant disspate its heat as fast. It would also mean, it would take longer for an intercooler pipe to be effected by hot engine compartment temperatures.

All of these is VERY depandant on the alloy of the steel and aluminum. Since I dont know what kind of piping he is using and dont know what kind of aluminum piping CAI are made of, we cant really draw an exact (number) conclusion.


I like your idea of the FMIC, it does look like it could use some cleaning up and reduce the amount of welds needed. That should make it easier to produce and reduce the price. Do you consider this the prototype or is this the final product.