USA Mazda Diesel Engine Delayed Again
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Nice recap of key advantages/disadvantages.
Miguel1983
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The cars themselves or the fuel ?
Here in Belgium, the diesel powered car is more expensive, but the fuel is cheaper.
Combined with better fuel-economy, the diesel car is cheaper in the end IF you drive more then 20000KM/year (12500Miles)
keep in mind Belgium is a tiny country, so we do have to consider that, diesel or petrol, because many people here don't drive 12500miles/year.
In the US you probably drive 20+ miles just to get to the mall right ?
Over here 80 miles is already "far" (crazy)
Here in Belgium, the diesel powered car is more expensive, but the fuel is cheaper.
Combined with better fuel-economy, the diesel car is cheaper in the end IF you drive more then 20000KM/year (12500Miles)
keep in mind Belgium is a tiny country, so we do have to consider that, diesel or petrol, because many people here don't drive 12500miles/year.
In the US you probably drive 20+ miles just to get to the mall right ?
Over here 80 miles is already "far" (crazy)
In US, both.
Miguel1983
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Didn't know that, but i guess that's not the reason why Jeremy Clarckson is a fanatic petrolhead (lol2)
This The truth about cars article claims Mazda might after all use some kind of after treatment for their diesel engine when it brings it to the US.
This is an unconfirmed rumor though Mazda is still committed to bringing the diesel with the right combination of economy and power.
This is an unconfirmed rumor though Mazda is still committed to bringing the diesel with the right combination of economy and power.
Glad I didn't wait for this before getting mine. It sounds like wait is another year or two
Do you think you might pick one up if they finally ship one to the states?
I had wanted one all along but am happy enough with my 2.5L it is a non-issue for me now.
I guessing these "driveabiltiy" issues might have something to do with the 9.4s 0-62 time for the most powerful automatic diesel in the UK...
I doubt many customers in North America are going to want to pay a premium for a diesel which is slightly slower than the 2.0L gas version, and a lot slower than the 2.5L.
I think mazda might be trying to increase the power output of the diesel, but is having a hard time meeting the emission regs without after treatment.
No, I have doubts about reliability and maintenance costs (and those concerns apply to all clean diesels today), not to mention purchase price premium.
I think if you drove the 2.2d you would be surprised at how powerful it felt as the high torque available low down in the rev range gives you far more pull than you will ever feel in the petrol model, along with more effortless cruising (torque allows higher overall gearing) and also much better mpg. The 0-60 times favours high revving petrol engines but 30-50/ 50-70 times relate much more to normal driving and the diesel will usually be better at those figures.
The news said that gas prices might fall into the $2 range this year. That will help snuff diesel enthusiasm. I will cling to my tdi ('03 5sp gls wagon) until it is a pile of rust!
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Agreed, I don't think we'll see SkyActiv-D here in the near future! (mad)
Judging by the responses from European Diesel owners, Mazda Doesn't have a good system yet. Raising the "full" oil level mark on a new dipstick is not a fix and diesel fuel is not good for bearing lubrication. Mazda has screwed up IMO and needs a solid fix like VW, Mercedes and others have. Ed
Yes you only have to read the brits thread to see the numerous engine problems, in Australia new cams are being fitted, in Europe new brake servos etc, new rear brakes and discs are being replaced due to excessive wear.
It makes me wonder about Mazda's reliability frankly, having had 4 Nissans, a Honda and a Toyota, this make Mazda is by far the worst for problems.
Mine has been relatively good having only failed to start due to a flat battery, sorted be "adjusting" the smart charging system. But I haven't had a failure to start on a car since a mini metro in the 80's!!
Not sure what my next car will be as I really like the car.
It makes me wonder about Mazda's reliability frankly, having had 4 Nissans, a Honda and a Toyota, this make Mazda is by far the worst for problems.
Mine has been relatively good having only failed to start due to a flat battery, sorted be "adjusting" the smart charging system. But I haven't had a failure to start on a car since a mini metro in the 80's!!
Not sure what my next car will be as I really like the car.
And now the delay is indefinite:
http://blog.caranddriver.com/holy-s...old-for-u-s-following-vw-scandal/#more-254582
http://blog.caranddriver.com/holy-s...old-for-u-s-following-vw-scandal/#more-254582
