Freshly lowered on H&R Sports with ebay rear camber arms. TL-S wheels are 17x8 +45, these tires are OEM size for a TL-S (235s). It's a lot of meat to cram under there, but so far I've only rubbed once, on the rear, over a drainage ditch that I hit too fast. I'll probably want to roll the rears at some point. Oh, and if anyone gets any ideas, you need to have the center bores enlarged on these, and you need to get some OEM Honda lug nuts because Honda/Acura wheels use spherical seats instead of 45* acorn seats. I'm using OEM S2000 CR black lug nuts with locks. I've got a set (5) of the Mazda nuts in the back with the spare tire and a 19mm lug wrench as well. Crossing brands can get complicated.