(iagree) doesn't make sense (hmm)
Mazda Appoints New CEO, Prioritises USA - Wonder If Any Immediate Impact On CX-5
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(iagree) doesn't make sense (hmm)
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- Denver, CO
Apparently this time around, the 2.2TT Diesel that has been upgraded here is supposedly coming to the 2019 Mazda 3
Source: 2019 Mazda3 to debut at LA show, featuring SkyActiv-X tech
Specifications for the final production unit are yet to be confirmed, but its understood Mazda may launch the new Mazda3 with a 2.0-litre supercharged SkyActiv-X unit producing around 140kW and 230Nm. A diesel unit is also expected, potentially adopting the latest 2.2-litre twin-turbo featured in the updated CX-5 and Mazda6, developing 140kW and 450Nm.
Source: 2019 Mazda3 to debut at LA show, featuring SkyActiv-X tech
Specifications for the final production unit are yet to be confirmed, but its understood Mazda may launch the new Mazda3 with a 2.0-litre supercharged SkyActiv-X unit producing around 140kW and 230Nm. A diesel unit is also expected, potentially adopting the latest 2.2-litre twin-turbo featured in the updated CX-5 and Mazda6, developing 140kW and 450Nm.
I think they have a 1.8TD diesel elsewhere in the world. That would probably make more sense in the 3 than the 2.2TD.
Odd there's no mention of available AWD...
We had diesel here for current model (2.2L) as a top spec variant but was removed due to low sales
AWD isn't coming at this stage as it's not aimed as a performance model.....
Mazda noted they were looking at bringing available AWD to both the next gen 3 and 6 as they get re-designed as it's an in demand feature, particularly as they aim upmarket.
Let's hope they do but so far, most of the information only relates to SkyActiv-X engine.
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- State of Jefferson
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- 2017 CX-5 GT AWD+
You're looking for performance, Mazda is looking for less NVH. You think they're making it less capable, but they think they're improving it for the majority of buyers.
Yet, no one complained about a torsion beam on the Fiesta ST, everyone praised its handling abilities...a lot of it comes down to how it is engineered, Mazda wanted to make the rear space bigger, reduce weight, and reduce NVH and a torsion beam does all that, can't say for sure if it really is a downgrade until the 3 can be test drove after release date...the French Peugeot 308 is famous for its handling ability with a torsion beam, so we can't just automatically assume torsion beam is always an inferior setup.
True maybe it is the answer for Mazda but from what I have read, pretty much every reviewer prefers independent suspension to torsion beam for overall handling and comfort.
Mazda has been using independent suspension in their 3 since 2004 when it first came out and now after 14 years, they are moving away.
I have my concerns but will reserve judgement until it is out and has been thoroughly tested and reviewed
Here's an article from Sep. 2017 regarding the switch to torsion beam on the next 3:
https://www.goauto.com.au/news/mazd...-car-suspension-rethink/2017-09-10/65426.html
https://www.goauto.com.au/news/mazd...-car-suspension-rethink/2017-09-10/65426.html
Ahhh. Perhaps you meant the 306?. Those were the days. Back in the 90's I had one. Best handling car I've ever had. Pity about the French electrics....
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- 2022 2.5GT
Heres the CX-3 rear arrangement for the front and all wheel drive (the latter is mooted for the forthcoming 3). I had a CX-3 and the suspension was one of the major deciding points for coming to the CX-5. It was way too soft for my liking and I routinely bottomed it out over some relatively calm speed humps on the way to work. The CX-3 is on the 2 platform so I suppose it could all be beefed up but that wants careful testing before committing to a 3 IMO.
VW did this with the Jetta and then moved back to an independent setup. I think on really small and light vehicles a twist beam setup can work well enough. But I don’t believe it really scales up into larger heavier cars. But as others have said it might be fine. We won’t know till it’s out and people can drive it.
I do know for me it helped me decide the updated 3 wasn’t what I was wanting and just went for the GTI. I think I made the right decision.
I do know for me it helped me decide the updated 3 wasn’t what I was wanting and just went for the GTI. I think I made the right decision.
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Meh...so which car brands are catering to performance these days?
NelsonLewis
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- 16.5 CX-5 GT AWD w/Tech BRMica
You made the right decision,and thats coming from someone that will never own another VW...
As for Mazda,not looking good to be a repeat owner here either...
I hate to say it, but the mainstream brand you are looking for that is also increasing performance of their cars is Honda. That is, if you can get past their polarizing designs.
This should be a wake-up call for Mazda. Mazda, you cannot be losing performance minded customers to Honda. Need more zoom-zoom to go with along with the luxury refinements.
Ford actually is the most enthusiast centric atm.
Fiesta ST, Focus ST, Focus RS, Edge ST, Fusion Sport, Mustang (several levels), Raptor, GT.
I would say SHO but that’s dead atm I think.
And probably more coming as they transition to SUV brand. I mean if you want a sporty CUV........
Fiesta ST, Focus ST, Focus RS, Edge ST, Fusion Sport, Mustang (several levels), Raptor, GT.
I would say SHO but that’s dead atm I think.
And probably more coming as they transition to SUV brand. I mean if you want a sporty CUV........
