For all of you with LSD breakage problems...
- Thread starter therieldeal
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people really need to slow down and READ before replying... I'm not just ranting in particular about this thread but many other threads many people are doing... this is especially important when someone represents the forum which is a great embarrassment when a simple mistake is made
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- MSP 1145
...biggest difference? engineering...
evidently the new lsd or quaife is better for traction/handling/power overall...
some are arguing that if you weld the msp lsd, it's just like it..
i tend to disagree with that, because there's obviously a reason someone engineered something like this-for better performance.
Outlawstar98
Member
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- 2003 MazdaSpeed Protege / 2013 BRZ
The difference mainly is the gearing inside of it, but the non revised LSD for the MSP wasn't that good, the Revised one was MUCH better, but the weak point was still the Ceasing falling off (which I don't see why they didn't fix that, a little welding doesn't hurt lol)
And yes, this LSD Prob is just as good, or even better then the MSP LSD, but that being said what most people aim for on here, the Revised Welded LSD is MORE then enough to hold it.
What we need is someone to do a comparison of this LSD and the Revised Welded LSD. Both can hold what you can toss at it, it just goes down to how it preforms, which will be ABOUT the same.
And yes, this LSD Prob is just as good, or even better then the MSP LSD, but that being said what most people aim for on here, the Revised Welded LSD is MORE then enough to hold it.
What we need is someone to do a comparison of this LSD and the Revised Welded LSD. Both can hold what you can toss at it, it just goes down to how it preforms, which will be ABOUT the same.
Sorry guys but the difference between the quaife/this diff and the msp diff are pretty big.
First off power holding. I can't speak for the mfactory (I have seen many claims of quaife like performance and just about all have failed) but they should all hold the same power. A welded msp lsd will hold basically all you can throw at it and you will break an axle before you run into diff issues. So if your looking just for strength its whatever you want here
HOWEVER here is the difference, the quaife and mfactory diff are helical type diffs which have much better response than the stock msp diff. Helical diff's in fwd application are almost always prefered so this is where the mfactory and quaife win out and why it could be worth the extra cash to somebody.
First off power holding. I can't speak for the mfactory (I have seen many claims of quaife like performance and just about all have failed) but they should all hold the same power. A welded msp lsd will hold basically all you can throw at it and you will break an axle before you run into diff issues. So if your looking just for strength its whatever you want here
HOWEVER here is the difference, the quaife and mfactory diff are helical type diffs which have much better response than the stock msp diff. Helical diff's in fwd application are almost always prefered so this is where the mfactory and quaife win out and why it could be worth the extra cash to somebody.
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- MSP 1145
thank you.
therieldeal
Member
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- 1995 Ford Escort GT-R
sorry guys.. i didn't realize there were so many fanboi's of the stock MSP diff...
please ask anyone on this forum who has upgraded to the quaife if it was a worthwhile upgrade. i can guarantee that even though it cost $1300+, they will say yes it was definitely worth every penny.
the MFactory lsd offers all the advantages of the Quaife, at about half the price. i'm not going to keep arguing as to why its better. there is a reason why i spent the last six months working with this company to design/test/etc these things. the reason? to give us mazda guys a good option aside from the overpriced quaife. apparently my efforts were in vain for a lot of you guys?
please ask anyone on this forum who has upgraded to the quaife if it was a worthwhile upgrade. i can guarantee that even though it cost $1300+, they will say yes it was definitely worth every penny.
the MFactory lsd offers all the advantages of the Quaife, at about half the price. i'm not going to keep arguing as to why its better. there is a reason why i spent the last six months working with this company to design/test/etc these things. the reason? to give us mazda guys a good option aside from the overpriced quaife. apparently my efforts were in vain for a lot of you guys?
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- MSP 1145
some people are just ignorant of facts. it's fine dude. thanks for the input and keeping us updated. i WILL be buying one of these. thank you
Sorry, could you explain exactly what you meant by this statement? We have yet to have a single LSD failure, and around 70% of our LSD's are used on SFWD/Outlaw Drag Cars pushing 800whp+
fishdonotbounce
Registered Zombie
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- 08.5 CWP Speed3
I think he meant to say that he doesn't know how yours are but all other claims before by other people with other solutions have been false.
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- MSP 1145
oic, thanks
well.. you're on here. that's awesome. you should get AMM status and do a group buy.
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- MSP 1145
no.. the axles should be the same splines.. the msp axles are thicker only in the middle. splines are the same.
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- MSP 1145
seriously? are you being serious???
i can't tell.. but the lsd goes inside the trans.and the axles click into it.
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- 2002 BJFW, 2007 BK3P, 1979 SA22C, 2005 BK3P
factory axles from either a mazdaspeed or n/a protege should go right in. same as when you put an msp LSD into the regular protege trans.
its embarrassing and offensive to someone who genuinely shares something new with the community to be confronted in a manner displayed in this thread by some people. i won't say anything more on that.
to the original poster, thanks for sharing and it looks like a nice product.
its embarrassing and offensive to someone who genuinely shares something new with the community to be confronted in a manner displayed in this thread by some people. i won't say anything more on that.
to the original poster, thanks for sharing and it looks like a nice product.
