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Doesn't change the junk they put out during ford's ownership.
How common are Mazdas?
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Doesn't change the junk they put out during ford's ownership.
Dr. Awkward
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Since un-merging with FoMoCo, Mazda has done a bang up job of rejuvenating their lineup.
Car & Driver ranks small SUVs; the Mazda CX 5 is #1 and the Honda CR-V is #3.
Mazdas ethos is to blend its sports-car know-how into every model, and the CX-5 is no exceptionsharp steering and a poised chassis make it the enthusiasts pick.
A 155-hp 2.0-liter four, six-speed manual and front-drive are standard; a 184-hp 2.5-liter four, six-speed auto and all-wheel drive are optional.
The smart cabin, easy-to-use touchscreen infotainment and optional safety techadaptive cruise, autonomous emergency braking and moreunderscore the CX-5s standing as a great all-rounder.
http://www.caranddriver.com/honda/cr-v
Car & Driver ranks small SUVs; the Mazda CX 5 is #1 and the Honda CR-V is #3.
Mazdas ethos is to blend its sports-car know-how into every model, and the CX-5 is no exceptionsharp steering and a poised chassis make it the enthusiasts pick.
A 155-hp 2.0-liter four, six-speed manual and front-drive are standard; a 184-hp 2.5-liter four, six-speed auto and all-wheel drive are optional.
The smart cabin, easy-to-use touchscreen infotainment and optional safety techadaptive cruise, autonomous emergency braking and moreunderscore the CX-5s standing as a great all-rounder.
http://www.caranddriver.com/honda/cr-v
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I have long felt that the US gets utterly shafted when it comes to automobiles.
To Mazda's credit they historically tend to shaft us less then other makers. Honda Type R's come to mind also older model civics and fits that had projectors while the U.S. ones got halogens reflectors.
Maybe it's due to the availability of Mazdas here in my vicinity, but I know of several people with Mazdas. Among the 13 houses on my street, 3 have CX-5s (myself included). I previously had a '14 3s GT hatch. Among friends, two have Mazda 6s. My grandmother drives a CX-5, another grandfather has a 2000 MX-5, two of my sister-in-laws have Mazda3s (1st gen and a 2nd gen)
Parents bought a Subaru Forester because they didn't want to be seen as copycats?
Prior to my Mazdas, I drove Hondas - an '07 Civic & '92 Accord. Wife drives an '11 Accord.
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Parents bought a Subaru Forester because they didn't want to be seen as copycats?
Prior to my Mazdas, I drove Hondas - an '07 Civic & '92 Accord. Wife drives an '11 Accord.
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In 2015, CX-5 is the top seller for Mazda in the US market. One month of sales data doesn't indicate the trend of sales. I tabulated sales figures on compact CUVs in the US market since 2012, the first year CX-5 was coming to the States, for comparison. These numbers speak for themselves that Mazda's sales numbers on CX-5 are indeed underwhelming:
The Top Four in 2015:
| Honda CR-V | Volume | Volume Increase Yearly | % Increase Yearly | Comments |
| 2012 | 281,652 | - | - | New 4th Gen |
| 2013 | 303,904 | +22,252 | +7.90% | |
| 2014 | 335,019 | +31,115 | +10.24% | |
| 2015 | 345,647 | +10,628 | +3.17% | Facelift |
| 2016 *YTD | 100,101 | 4 Months |
| Toyota RAV4 | Volume | Volume Increase Yearly | % Increase Yearly | Comments |
| 2012 | 171,877 | - | - | |
| 2013 | 218,249 | +46,372 | +26.98% | New 4th Gen |
| 2014 | 267,698 | +49,449 | +22.66% | |
| 2015 | 315,412 | +47,714 | +17.82% | |
| 2016 *YTD | 106,274 | 4 Months |
| Ford Escape | Volume | Volume Increase Yearly | % Increase Yearly | Comments |
| 2012 | 261,008 | - | - | New 3rd Gen |
| 2013 | 295,993 | +34,985 | +13.40% | |
| 2014 | 306,212 | +10,219 | +3.45% | |
| 2015 | 306,492 | +280 | +0.09% | |
| 2016 *YTD | 95,514 | 4 Months |
| Nissan Rogue | Volume | Volume Increase Yearly | % Increase Yearly | Comments |
| 2012 | 142,349 | - | - | |
| 2013 | 162,751 | +20,402 | +14.33% | |
| 2014 | 199,199 | +36,448 | +22.39% | New 2nd Gen |
| 2015 | 287,190 | +87,991 | +44.17% | |
| 2016 *YTD | 92,209 | 4 Months |
Two in the Bottom Bunch in 2015
| Subaru Forester | Volume | Volume Increase Yearly | % Increase Yearly | Comments |
| 2012 | 76,347 | - | - | |
| 2013 | 123,592 | +47,245 | +61.88% | |
| 2014 | 159,953 | +36,361 | +29.42% | New 4th Gen |
| 2015 | 175,192 | +15,239 | +9.53% | |
| 2016 *YTD | 52,917 | 4 Months |
| Mazda CX-5 | Volume | Volume Increase Yearly | % Increase Yearly | Comments |
| 2012 | 43,319 | - | - | New 1st Gen |
| 2013 | 79,544 | +36,225 | +83.62% | |
| 2014 | 99,122 | +19,578 | +24.61% | |
| 2015 | 111,450 | +12,328 | +12.44% | Facelif |
| 2016 *YTD | 32,433 | 4 Months |
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Mazda themselves positioned CX-5 as a cheaper model in their lineups. It also save some cost for them. You'll find memory seat, rear AC vents, one-touch up-down power windows for four with lights on switches, dash tweeters for Bose system, a covered door for left dash cubby, dead pedal cover, LED interior lights, glove compartment light, courtesy lights, etc. are all featured in Mazda6 which has similar interior design, but eliminated in CX-5.
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All of those fancy high-tech features are irrelevant if Mazda can't figure out fast why the NHTSA frontal crash test ratings on 2016 CX-5 dropped from 5 stars for previous MYs to 3 stars on passenger side. Mind you 3-star rating is below industry average as most competitors in the same class are having at least 4 stars!
Speaking about easy-to-use touchscreen infotainment, where is the live traffic feature for 2016 GPS system clearly stated in the 2016 CX-5 sales brochure?
mazdadude
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I do not think Mazda has never wanted to be the top producer like Toyota or Honda. So I feel comparing sales numbers to them is just not relevant.
Do you want a plain vanilla twinkie snack cake pumped out of a mass production factory with very little flavor? Or would you rather have a carefully crafted and delicious morsel made by an enthusiast that enjoys the passion, emotions, and taste bud tingling that a quality product can invoke.
I have had many other cars besides Mazda's, but always return to them when I want to enjoy the driving experience again.
Do you want a plain vanilla twinkie snack cake pumped out of a mass production factory with very little flavor? Or would you rather have a carefully crafted and delicious morsel made by an enthusiast that enjoys the passion, emotions, and taste bud tingling that a quality product can invoke.
I have had many other cars besides Mazda's, but always return to them when I want to enjoy the driving experience again.
I agree. Yrwei52 doesn't understand that concept though of Mazda. That's why he always posts those same damn statistics that mean nothing. He seems to think Mazda is failing if they're not selling the amount of companies such as Toyota, Honda. But that's not Mazdas gameplay otherwise they would of changed years ago.
mazdadude
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Well it is a very odd concept that conflicts with conventional capitalist wisdom.
After FORD dumped it's majority stake in Mazda, Mazda had to do a gut check and decide if they wanted to go to battle with the Big 3 Japan motors, or just be happy with their small position.
They developed an interesting strategy instead... they went all in on designing the SKYACTIV engines and chassis, making certain that quality, efficiency, and scalability were paramount. They wanted to reduce costs long term, and at the same time increase the brands image as a reliable alternative to the big 3 Japan. In addition, having many different engines and chassis' also make it difficult for a dealers service department to perform and maintain a high level of satisfaction for the customer.
There are also dangers of this strategy, and one of them is having a fault or engineering failure on a part or component, and since you have used it on every car you produced, you have a massive overhead / recall problem.
Another problem is that when the "Vanilla" car drivers come to drive a Mazda and they are not pleased with the tighter driving dynamics, noise, vibration, feel that enthusiasts look for. So they have to dial back some of that feel, for sake of the comfort, at the risk of alienating the enthusiasts. It is a delicate balance indeed...
So in fact over the last 5 years the Mazda's have indeed gotten a bit more vanilla, but they had no choice if they wanted to stay an independent car company. The benefit of selling a lot more vanilla pudding, is that I would expect us to be receiving some special desserts from Mazda soon...
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Dr. Awkward
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The last two posts explain Mazda's strategy since their uncoupling with Ford.
According to most auto journalists, US News, Consumer Reports, etc. they hit home runs with the Mazda 3, the CX 5, and the new CX 3.
The flagship CX 9 is already getting rave reviews and this trend should continue.
Especially when gas prices start going back up.
According to most auto journalists, US News, Consumer Reports, etc. they hit home runs with the Mazda 3, the CX 5, and the new CX 3.
The flagship CX 9 is already getting rave reviews and this trend should continue.
Especially when gas prices start going back up.
I'm not worried about being the top dog in Sales figures so long as the car manufacturer engineers quality vehicles with new innovation whilst maintaining sustainable profits to enable growth. As mentioned before Mazda is not a huge company compared to Toyota, Honda etc but they are definitely the most exciting mainstream Japanese car manufacturer.
They are obviously doing something right for Toyota to form a mutual partnership with them.
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The two leaders heaped praise on the other’s organisation. Toyoda noted that Mazda’s Skyactiv drivetrains and Kodo design direction prove that its new partner “always thinks of what is coming next for vehicles and technology”.
Kogai in turn commended Toyota for its “steadfast resolve on global environmental issues and the future of manufacturing”. Both parties believe that Mazda’s focus on “joy” and Toyota’s mantra of “ever-better cars” overlap in significant ways.
These words of mutual praise can be read as coded hints confirming a report yesterday that Mazda will provide Toyota with Skyactiv engines and drivetrain components, while the smaller partner gains access to Toyota’s fuel cell technology.
They are obviously doing something right for Toyota to form a mutual partnership with them.
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The two leaders heaped praise on the other’s organisation. Toyoda noted that Mazda’s Skyactiv drivetrains and Kodo design direction prove that its new partner “always thinks of what is coming next for vehicles and technology”.
Kogai in turn commended Toyota for its “steadfast resolve on global environmental issues and the future of manufacturing”. Both parties believe that Mazda’s focus on “joy” and Toyota’s mantra of “ever-better cars” overlap in significant ways.
These words of mutual praise can be read as coded hints confirming a report yesterday that Mazda will provide Toyota with Skyactiv engines and drivetrain components, while the smaller partner gains access to Toyota’s fuel cell technology.
Dr. Awkward
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^ Totally agree with you.
The CX is very, very, popular down under.
Australia's best selling SUVs so far in 2016:
1. Mazda CX 5 - 2156
2. Hyundai Tucson - 1849
3. Nissan X Trail - 1669
4. Toyota RAV 4 - 1514
http://www.whichcar.com.au/car-news/top-10-selling-suvs-in-australia-february-2016
For 2015:
1. Mazda CX-5 25,136
2. Toyota RAV4 18,435
3. Nissan X-Trail 17,971
4. Subaru Forester 12,029
5. Mitsubishi Outlander 10,884
http://www.businessinsider.com.au/these-are-the-top-selling-suvs-in-australia-2016-1
The CX is very, very, popular down under.
Australia's best selling SUVs so far in 2016:
1. Mazda CX 5 - 2156
2. Hyundai Tucson - 1849
3. Nissan X Trail - 1669
4. Toyota RAV 4 - 1514
http://www.whichcar.com.au/car-news/top-10-selling-suvs-in-australia-february-2016
For 2015:
1. Mazda CX-5 25,136
2. Toyota RAV4 18,435
3. Nissan X-Trail 17,971
4. Subaru Forester 12,029
5. Mitsubishi Outlander 10,884
http://www.businessinsider.com.au/these-are-the-top-selling-suvs-in-australia-2016-1
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Apparently either you cherry pick the posts you want to see, or you simply ignore the sequence of post in this thread and start doing personal attacks without any merit!
JSB33 posted the sales numbers on CX-5. I merely made a comment. Dr. Awkward then responded with one-month sales figure to prove my comment on low sales number "is pretty lame and just not true"! I then replied with 5-year sales figures for major compact CUVs to show CX-5 sales are indeed at the bottom of the list. So what's wrong with posting the most recent sales data and not the same data like you implied? Especially when other member presented wrong information?
It seems you feel you're the higher authority of this forum who can criticize any posts you don't like even if it's the fact, and set up rules to pick and choose what kind of information we can post! It's your own business if you choose to bury your head in the sand and ignore the facts. But the fact of matter is you have no authority to control what we can post in this forum, especially if it's the fact!
I think it's ridiculous by saying Mazda doesn't want to sell more CX-5's in the US!
When you're interviewing for a sales VP job, try to tell the head of Mazda North American Operations that those damn sales statistics that mean nothing and your goal is to keep the sales of CX-5 staying at the bottom of the list! If you'd get hired the sun will be rising from the West!
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Wow the CX-5 outsold the RAV4!
