That's mostly because CVT's can't handle lots of horsepower and torque, and the fact that people that buy premium vehicles don't care that much about the fuel efficiency that a CVT can provide.
Over here the current 3 starts in the low 20K and finishes in the mid 30K. It sells quite well
My buddy just dumped his 2015 Tacoma after 1.5 years of a 3 year lease. He hated it that much. (ironically, despite breaking the lease early, he still didn't lose any money due to their ridiculous resale value).
Older Toyotas were the tops tho.... late 80s, early 90s.
Yes Australian dollarsIn Australian dollars? Also, we Americans' are fat and getting fatter. Don't know how many cars they sell in Australia but in the USA they used to sell about 10K a month. Now, it is closer to 5-6. They need to get back to at least 10 if not higher. A smaller 3 will not do it. And for 30K, most people won't go for it in the USA unless it has lots of HP (think Focus).
What did he hate about it?
We bought a new 4runner in 2012 and I love the thing. It hasn't hiccuped in 60K miles. Not one issue. We just gas it up and go. It's definitely no sports car or something to commute-to-your-desk in comfort and silence. But deep sand? Check. Mud holes? No problem. Hill climbs? Easy like pie. Tow a boat or trailer? Done.
The thing's damn-near bulletproof! Here we are one day in the Hollister Hills. That's a steep hill we're at the top of.
Was at the dealership last Saturday to drop off the CX-5 for service. Actrually my wife drove the CX-5, while I drove the Speed. I unfortunately had to park in front of the salesmen and one of them came over to talk to me. He was aggressively trying to get me to sell my Speed. I told him not until there's a new Mazdaspeed model. He then went on talking about how Mazda is moving up as a premium brand and that AWD with a turbo is coming soon to a Mazda3, Mazda6 or CX-5. He doesn't know yet which one is going to get it, just that one of those models will get that drivetrain/engine combination. Take it with a grain of salt, but if is true, that is good news for performance minded Mazda fans.
Was at the dealership last Saturday to drop off the CX-5 for service. Actrually my wife drove the CX-5, while I drove the Speed. I unfortunately had to park in front of the salesmen and one of them came over to talk to me. He was aggressively trying to get me to sell my Speed. I told him not until there's a new Mazdaspeed model. He then went on talking about how Mazda is moving up as a premium brand and that AWD with a turbo is coming soon to a Mazda3, Mazda6 or CX-5. He doesn't know yet which one is going to get it, just that one of those models will get that drivetrain/engine combination. Take it with a grain of salt, but if is true, that is good news for performance minded Mazda fans.
Yes, that will be the Diesel CX-5, which uses a twin turbo 2.2 diesel engine!
Was at the dealership last Saturday to drop off the CX-5 for service. Actrually my wife drove the CX-5, while I drove the Speed. I unfortunately had to park in front of the salesmen and one of them came over to talk to me. He was aggressively trying to get me to sell my Speed. I told him not until there's a new Mazdaspeed model. He then went on talking about how Mazda is moving up as a premium brand and that AWD with a turbo is coming soon to a Mazda3, Mazda6 or CX-5. He doesn't know yet which one is going to get it, just that one of those models will get that drivetrain/engine combination. Take it with a grain of salt, but if is true, that is good news for performance minded Mazda fans.
The salesman has no idea and is peddling drivel.
There is a high chance of him doing just that haha. It makes sense though that the next step for Mazda is to make the AWD/2.5T combo available for another model in their lineup.
I am holding off my purchase because I want that 2.5T. it just doesn't make sense for such a small company to develop a new engine and only put it in their low volume model.
I am holding off my purchase because I want that 2.5T. it just doesn't make sense for such a small company to develop a new engine and only put it in their low volume model.
I don't think you're going to see that engine in anything other than a CX-9. It's there because it's the only engine in their lineup that can pull a CX-9. If adding the engine to their other vehicles would be beneficial for them, they would have done it already. You will likely see HCCI engines across the line with the exception of the CX-9. They're roadmap suggests HCCI+Electrification technology, not turbos.
They're 'premium' strategy seems to be make a nice looking car that's quiet, and has a nice interior but offers nothing else that a typical premium car might deliver like power or features.
I don't think you're going to see that engine in anything other than a CX-9. It's there because it's the only engine in their lineup that can pull a CX-9. If adding the engine to their other vehicles would be beneficial for them, they would have done it already. You will likely see HCCI engines across the line with the exception of the CX-9. They're roadmap suggests HCCI+Electrification technology, not turbos.
They're 'premium' strategy seems to be make a nice looking car that's quiet, and has a nice interior but offers nothing else that a typical premium car might deliver like power or features.