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GJ is out for a little bit, so he won't have to.
Subaru vs. Mazda
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GJ is out for a little bit, so he won't have to.
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"Anti" inclusions or "nannys" are now part and parcel of all cars these days.
If one want's to own a car without these things, best to buy something say pre 1990's.
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Some more than others. It seems some trims have more as is the case of some of the packages. I'm quite happy with my no packages Touring
Some more than others. It seems some trims have more as is the case of some of the packages. I'm quite happy with my no packages Touring
Pure marketing related.
"Here's a taste of it. You want some more, spend more on higher grade to get more"
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Indeed so. (iagree)
They need to be in fully autonomous vehicles
bumpnstump
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Sad, but true, re. the 'anti'/'nanny'.
re the 'pre 1990's: I'd probably go a bit further back, to the cars I grew up with: '60's and 70's.....
Sad, but true, re. the 'anti'/'nanny'.
re the 'pre 1990's: I'd probably go a bit further back, to the cars I grew up with: '60's and 70's.....
You remind me that years ago I drove a Peugeot in the spring summer fall, and a SAAB model 96 in the winter. The Peugeot was a big soft riding very nicely appointed car, (That also handled remarkably well). The SAAB was as basic as a car can get and still have doors. The informant system consisted of a radio bolted under the dashboard. About a week after switching to the SAAB i was driving home from work and asking my self why do I do this to my self, This thing rides stiff and hard, it's noisy, and it has less room. Then I turned into a mall parking lot only to find that the entire lot was covered with black ice. I coxed the car through a couple of turns using the hand brake and slid into a parking spot. I got out and could only stand by holding on to the car and thought NOW I remember why I drive this. No nanny factor at all, but a LOT of fun.
Sad, but true, re. the 'anti'/'nanny'.
re the 'pre 1990's: I'd probably go a bit further back, to the cars I grew up with: '60's and 70's.....
Very true
7eregrine
The man, the myth, the legend
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Bwahahaha Love this forum. A few things:
GJ and his obsession with snows...my god, man. I've been driving in CLEVELAND OHIO which I assure you has much more sever winters then where C-D lives and only 3 out of 30 winters (thereabouts) did I have snow tires. Yep, plain old ordinary all seasons. Common Sense driving > any tire / wheel + drivetrain configuration. Give it a rest, Captain Obvious. We all know snows are best. Doesn't mean everyone should have them.
@Jthj & Natey: Great meme's.
@Mongonchile. Wow, dude, really? How did you ever even find that... oh... I see. It's officially confirmed. The narcissist actually does a search for his name to see if he's been mentioned. Man, you got issues, bro.
Re: nanny cars. You do NOT have to go back to the 90's. Most of this nanny bs is very recent. You only have to go back 4 or 5 years. My 06 Saab didn't nanny me at all. Didn't even beep at me to get me to wear a belt.
GJ and his obsession with snows...my god, man. I've been driving in CLEVELAND OHIO which I assure you has much more sever winters then where C-D lives and only 3 out of 30 winters (thereabouts) did I have snow tires. Yep, plain old ordinary all seasons. Common Sense driving > any tire / wheel + drivetrain configuration. Give it a rest, Captain Obvious. We all know snows are best. Doesn't mean everyone should have them.
@Jthj & Natey: Great meme's.
@Mongonchile. Wow, dude, really? How did you ever even find that... oh... I see. It's officially confirmed. The narcissist actually does a search for his name to see if he's been mentioned. Man, you got issues, bro.
Re: nanny cars. You do NOT have to go back to the 90's. Most of this nanny bs is very recent. You only have to go back 4 or 5 years. My 06 Saab didn't nanny me at all. Didn't even beep at me to get me to wear a belt.
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I actually like the nannies in modern vehicles. The late 90's/early 2000's were HORRIBLE!
Traction control that KILLED forward momentum. Now we have PTM that actually allows best performance numbers launching the car like an idiot, seamlessly matching power to traction instead of the "spark cut" we got in the late 90's where the nose just dropped and you wondered what you done broke before all hell was unleashed and it took off again if you hadn't lifted.
Stability control that allows some rotation before GENTLY stepping in and PROPERLY correcting things.
My only remaining complaint is that ABS can upset a vehicle during a hydroplaning recovery maneuver where you GENTLY apply SLIGHT brake pressure. This happened to me once. Front felt light in my 370Z, I got off the throttle and it still felt light, so I GENTLY touched the brake. BAM! ABS pulsated, kicked in and popped the front brakes a few times rapid-fire, and the car was spinning like a mofo.
They need to fix that maybe...
Traction control that KILLED forward momentum. Now we have PTM that actually allows best performance numbers launching the car like an idiot, seamlessly matching power to traction instead of the "spark cut" we got in the late 90's where the nose just dropped and you wondered what you done broke before all hell was unleashed and it took off again if you hadn't lifted.
Stability control that allows some rotation before GENTLY stepping in and PROPERLY correcting things.
My only remaining complaint is that ABS can upset a vehicle during a hydroplaning recovery maneuver where you GENTLY apply SLIGHT brake pressure. This happened to me once. Front felt light in my 370Z, I got off the throttle and it still felt light, so I GENTLY touched the brake. BAM! ABS pulsated, kicked in and popped the front brakes a few times rapid-fire, and the car was spinning like a mofo.
They need to fix that maybe...
I see both sides of it. And the IIHS claims it saves lives.... (the safety stuff anyway) but agreed it can often be frustrating. I also like technology but agreed simple and intuitive is the way to go. I am actually finding I prefer the control knob to using MFT on my other car when rolling. I still think they should allow at least limited touch use when rolling.
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Yep! My guess is along with never looking at his blind spot, GJ probably thinks his snows make him invincible.
As for me, I lived up in the mountains about 9,000 ft. elevation where I was. Lived there for 14 years. Damn straight I learned how to drive in the snow. Much more treacherous than anything I'd ever hit down here. In fact, where I live in Denver tends to be the lowest amount of snow. And...when it snows, its all melted in 1-2 days! And then? No snow for days/weeks until the next storm, and then it's the same thing. Snows, then melted in a day or two. And....I just work from home on the day it snows
The hell I need snow tires for?@Mongonchile. Wow, dude, really? How did you ever even find that... oh... I see. It's officially confirmed. The narcissist actually does a search for his name to see if he's been mentioned. Man, you got issues, bro.
Yeah, pretty much. GJ's point about power sounded exactly like Mango which was my point. Mango takes that as trying to bring him in to something. No...it's just referencing your history and stuff you posted that some other person is repeating. Like deja vu. (braindead
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- San Antonio, Texas
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Can we stop bringing up pickledchile please. I know he has a fan club and groupies but he probably was just reading here like me/others were and saw his name mentioned. I seriously doubt he searches his name.
Re: nanny cars. You do NOT have to go back to the 90's. Most of this nanny bs is very recent. You only have to go back 4 or 5 years. My 06 Saab didn't nanny me at all. Didn't even beep at me to get me to wear a belt.
ABS, TCS etc are classified as nannys and have been around since 90's
That's because technology for this stuff was in its infancy back then and engineers etc hadn't mastered how to tune then correctly.
