Almost had my 2014...
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I thought with S-plan the dealer could still charge their doc fee?
They told me that they don't change doc fee with S-plan. This Duncan Mazda in Blacksburg.
Now you know why they call them "stealerships"!
ashoemaker
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- CX-5 GT
I think you bought my car!
I stopped in there on Saturday to test-drive the sky-blue 2014 GT they showed on their inventory. While it was still in on the parking lot, I was told it had already been sold and was waiting to be picked up. Hopefully I can get at least an equivalent deal when they get some more in stock.
Yup, that was my car. You must have come early in the morning since I left the dealer shortly after 11am.I think you bought my car!
Hopefully I can get at least an equivalent deal when they get some more in stock.
MarkyDizzle
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TT&L is only $1050, but I still think it's a good deal. They called me today and were able to get us the rate we need, plus a few extras to sweeten the deal. Looks like I'm going to get it tonight after all. Will post pics!
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jarcher107
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- 2014 CX-5, Touring, Bose/moonroof, formerly 1994 RX-7
"Say invoice is $25,500 and you get them to agree on $25,000. That sounds like an amazing deal on a brand new model.
The problem is if you are giving them a trade in as $12,000 of that deal but you could sell the same car yourself and get $15,000 or take it to carmax and get $13,200 then there is a sliding scale of value there. Meaning it is more like you just paid a minimum of $26,200 for the new car.
Unfortunately, on here we can only guess what the trade in was worth as we can't see condition or know what a competing source would have actually offered for it so it does make it not quite as meaningful."
That was kind of my point, all the talk about "I got mine for X" over or under MSRP or invoice, really doesn't tell anyone anything much, because of the ease of making it up on the value they put on your trade in. (I got an offer from Carmax first, thats one way to level the playing field a bit: you do know what you can sell it for in the "middle ground" between the ease (but cost) of trading it in, versus the PITA factor of selling it yourself for, one hopes, more. But how good or bad a deal someone got unless its a clean deal, no trade, no financing, doesn't really tell anyone much, esp with the narrow gap between MSRP and invoice on these cars.
The problem is if you are giving them a trade in as $12,000 of that deal but you could sell the same car yourself and get $15,000 or take it to carmax and get $13,200 then there is a sliding scale of value there. Meaning it is more like you just paid a minimum of $26,200 for the new car.
Unfortunately, on here we can only guess what the trade in was worth as we can't see condition or know what a competing source would have actually offered for it so it does make it not quite as meaningful."
That was kind of my point, all the talk about "I got mine for X" over or under MSRP or invoice, really doesn't tell anyone anything much, because of the ease of making it up on the value they put on your trade in. (I got an offer from Carmax first, thats one way to level the playing field a bit: you do know what you can sell it for in the "middle ground" between the ease (but cost) of trading it in, versus the PITA factor of selling it yourself for, one hopes, more. But how good or bad a deal someone got unless its a clean deal, no trade, no financing, doesn't really tell anyone much, esp with the narrow gap between MSRP and invoice on these cars.
Oh my goodness, this is awful!!! I hate that your dealer saw fit to sock you with doc fees on top of MSRP! You know they don't have to charge anything for that. And that Desert Package is awful too. Nitrogen filled tires doesn't cost them hardly anything. The paint protection / wax job may have cost them $10 in materials.
This is why I'm considering ordering one, and forbidding my dealer from installing any dealer options.
MarkyDizzle
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Got it! I am very satisfied with the deal. It's freaking GORGEOUS! I'll take some pics in the light tomorrow.
jarcher107
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- 2014 CX-5, Touring, Bose/moonroof, formerly 1994 RX-7
You know if you're happy with the car and your deal, that's all that really much matters. Some folks delight in rassling around on the show room floor with the salesperson to save the final quarter, others want to just get a reasonable price and get out of there. (I always reach a point of "Give me my keys, giv me my car, get out of my way!" myself. If I've not already cut the deal..which obviously can't be done if you're trading something in...I go in knowing where my own "buy" point is, and I don't care what the salesperson says his car is worth, or what valu they put on mine, I'm just looking at the difference and know "At $X difference, I'm at my buy point." Doesn't mean I'm not going to see if I can sweeten the deal even more, but I do know the number I need, and it's as simple as "Just give me a dollar difference between your car and mine.
It seems to be the same for everyone, this kind of thing happened to me too. Unless you have a quote from another bank, walking in empty handed will always get you screwed on a loan rate.
Want to see something magical? Go back with a quote from your bank, watch them immediately match the rate. Use your bank anyway, screw those guys. Then give the dealer a bad review for making you go the extra mile for no reason. Mazda NA does not like to see things like that so someone will get their ass chewed.
Want to see something magical? Go back with a quote from your bank, watch them immediately match the rate. Use your bank anyway, screw those guys. Then give the dealer a bad review for making you go the extra mile for no reason. Mazda NA does not like to see things like that so someone will get their ass chewed.
Years ago I got a quote on a new vehicle but their financing rate was too high. I went to a credit union and got a lower rate, came back pre-approved and told them that I wanted to sign off on the deal but with my own financing. That guy got really angry at me (they were getting kickbacks from their loan company) and at first refused to honor the deal. I started walking out the door and he yelled at me that he would take. I almost walked on the deal because of how rude they were, but I got my car at the price I wanted and the loan rate I wanted, so I signed.
I posted a negative review on dealerater.com & the sales guy emails me to remove it.
Serves him right to take 3 days to respond & still no quote. I bought our '14 CX-5 from the dealer that had the color I wanted. Even ask the other dealer near me for a dealer trade. The guy took days to respond. Sales person who responds quickly & has the best price gets my business. Other dealers just play games to tire you out or loose out to other dealers.
Biggers was the best rated dealer in IL & I'm glad I bought from them.
