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- San Antonio, Texas
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- '15 CX-5 Miata AWD
A tune can get you a better powerband.. the sky-high is a beast for tuning, especially with an upgraded intercooler. Oem tune is a balance between emission, desired output, mpg and noise.
I really don't have towing needs that exceed 4K lbs so just a waste for me.
I never towed in my life ...
Still, an engine with so much low-end torque and (probably) great economy will be a blast to drive. True, it does not rev very high so is probably not very quick 0-60, but it feels quick off the line and passing other vehicles and in ordinary driving, where low revs are used most of the time.
Depending on actual cost and reliability, it can be an excellent choice.
Mostly from Australians sources, it seems that the current 2.2D may not be a good choice for people with mostly short trips, because of the regen cycle, where fuel is squirted at the DPF to burn off accumulated soot. I wonder if Mazda has changed any of this behavior in this modified version, such as not using the cylinder fuel injectors for this task.
I'm used to a real diesel. I have not researched a Mazda diesel.
Some UK members have said the gas mileage for SkyActiv-D 2.2L diesel CX-5 should be around 37~40 US MPG on the highway.This might have been posted, but what could we expect in terms of US MPG from the 2.2DE?
Not likely...but if the CX-5 tow rating was increased with the diesel I would seriously consider a '17 to replace an existing vehicle. I'd keep my current '15. I'd be fine towing a nearly 3K lb load with trailer brakes & a CX-5.
My first 2013 cx5 did have a little more oil rise say 2mm, and yes it was all upto date with the C type dip stick etc. I got rid at just over 2 years due to having the brake vacumm pump fail a wear test, this can lead to metal bits into the engine and turbos, early cars also had failing sensors and prematuring cam wear.
Latest 2015 reg car is slightly better. And gets its first service next week.
It will be interesting to read the US owners comments after a year of ownership.
This might have been posted, but what could we expect in terms of US MPG from the 2.2DE?
It is 37.8 ish mpg from a UK forumer who got 50 UK MPG - this is dollar adjusted to the price of gasoline for comparison. Right now diesel is 10% costlier. Earlier this year both were the same price - so your effective mpg back then would be 41ish.
Having said that - Diesel will not save you money as ROI is not that great, not researched if they are >> conventional gasoline from emissions perspective, a huge sale of diesels will make gas more cheap which is terribad. Not sure about city mpg numbers yet.
On another note, TFL rated 17s as 2nd best looking car in the LA auto show behind Jaguar electric SUV. Yesterday evening went out for a stroll and my deep blue 16.5 was looking very pretty! I can't believe how Mazda made one of the most beautiful crossovers even more jaw dropping in 2017.
Oh lord. People. This is a cheap CUV. It is not a status symbol. It is not a performance machine. It's a grocery-hauler and something to drive when it looks like you might get caught in a hail storm and you don't want to damage your sunday car. If you like your 2016, you can keep your 2016
If you like the features offered in the 2017, you can sell your 2016 and get a 2017. I don't get what all the hurt feelings are over.
That's my concern. I get 33MPG in my 2.0L with my commute now (75% highway). With the difference in cost and mileage (about 7MPG better with diesel), I think I would need north of 10MPG in order to come out about even in terms of cost (not efficiency).
Another thing, the 2nd generation of the Skyactiv gasoline engines (due in 2017) should be more efficient than our current gasoline engines.
http://www.hybridcars.com/mazda-pla...lead-with-second-generation-skyactiv-engines/
Anyone wanting a new style cx-5 really think about waiting until Skyactiv2 comes out. That said were keeping our 2.0l 2013 for a long time so we'll probably hold out for the flux capacitor powered skyactiv 4 LOL.
That's my concern. I get 33MPG in my 2.0L with my commute now (75% highway). With the difference in cost and mileage (about 7MPG better with diesel), I think I would need north of 10MPG in order to come out about even in terms of cost (not efficiency).
Another thing, the 2nd generation of the Skyactiv gasoline engines (due in 2017) should be more efficient than our current gasoline engines.
http://www.hybridcars.com/mazda-pla...lead-with-second-generation-skyactiv-engines/
So cost difference between 2.2D and 2.5L has to consider the higher torque and towing capacity. Interesting to see what it will be for USA but its safe to say that the extra cost if it is within reason will not force people to compare the two since the diesel is more powerful.I don't know where you came up with 10MPG, but definitely recapture of increased cost will take a long time.
However, like some people get (unnecessary) additional features, some people will happily pay for significantly better low-end torque.
SkyActiv 2 release date is unknown and can easily be delayed, potentially for years. If someone can't wait for too long, they should be aware of that as they might need to get SkyActiv 1 afterall.
I don't know where you came up with 10MPG, but definitely recapture of increased cost will take a long time.
However, like some people get (unnecessary) additional features, some people will happily pay for significantly better low-end torque.
SkyActiv 2 release date is unknown and can easily be delayed, potentially for years. If someone can't wait for too long, they should be aware of that as they might need to get SkyActiv 1 afterall.
Around here Diesel is ~10% more expensive, so it needs to be ~3MPG better to have identical at the pump cost.
Of course, that does not include premium at purchase time and cost of DEF as well as potential more costly maintenance, but increased lifespan.
For the 2.2D, maintenance might not be as high, because it is a low compression diesel, thus less bulky with cheaper parts compared with standard diesel, though I am not sure at all.