Yep, pointed them down so far to get them out of people's eyes that the brights, which really aren't the brights anymore, look like foglights where they hit the ground. I use them for my fog/bright toggle mode. Looks funny how the fogs & brights toggle with the HIDs on the whole time. I don't drive with either of them any more. They look pitiful in comparison to the HIDs. Still use the fogs with parking lights until darkness calls for the beamz. Posted a few pics of the install under the hood in that other HID thread. Probably gonna go with 55w 5000k set in these offroad light housings I have on my truck for trail action.