Official 'Smoking Turbo' response from Mazda

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Hey everyone, I wanted to pass this info along to clear up any confusion. I stopped into my local dealer and asked him about the 5w-40 issue, and he hadn't heard anything about it. He sent me an email today with this information in it, apparently MNAO has issued this bulletin out for our cars:

SMOKE FROM TAIL PIPES AFTER PROLONGED IDLE PERIODS

Applicable Models

Model Starting S/N Ending S/N Model Spec CX7 2007-2008 000001 209008 P/D BEFORE 2/15/2008 MAZDA6 2006-2007 000001 999999 ALL MAZDASPEED6 MAZDA3 2007-2008 000001 880368 P/D BEFORE 2/6/2008 Related Category/Subcategory/Symptoms

ENGINE / MECHANICAL / WHITE SMOKE,BLUE SMOKE
ENGINE / EMISSIONS SYSTEM / EXCESSIVE OIL CONSUMPTION
ENGINE / EMISSIONS SYSTEM / WHITE SMOKE,BLUE SMOKE
ENGINE / EMISSIONS SYSTEM / BLACK SMOKE
ENGINE / MECHANICAL / EXCESSIVE OIL CONSUMPTION

MTOL - 5505 Dealer Repair Information

Symptom and Conditions


Applicable Model(s) VINS

[FONT=Courier New, Courier]CX-7 JM3ER ****8* 209008 Produced before 2/15/08
MAZDASPEED6 ALL ALL
MAZDASPEED3 JM1BK ****8* 880368 Produced before 2/6/08
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Some customers may experience white/blue smoke from their exhaust pipes
after prolonged idle periods and/or while driving in traffic at very
slow speeds.

This condition may be the result of the turbo's oil supply not being
able to adequately drain out of the turbo during long idle periods.

Vehicles having this concern should be diagnosed using the following diagnostics procedure.
Repair Procedure


1. Confirm that the proper maintenance intervals have been performed.

2. With the engine at normal operating temperature, allow it to idle
for an extended idle period.

Caution:
Closely monitor the engine coolant to the assure the engine does not Overheat.

3. If smoke from the exhaust is present after the extended idle period,
take before pictures of the smoke, then change the oil and filter
using 5W/40 (synthetic). After the oil change, in order to burn off
the oil that remains in the exhaust system, perform the following:
start the engine, check for oil leaks, then let it idle for 10
minutes, after the 10 minute idle period, increase the RPMs to 3000
for 1 minute, repeat idle test to confirm that no smoke returns.

A: If the smoke returns, contact the Technical Assistance Hotline
(Select option #2 for Major Assembly Authorization) with the oil
change history information, to attain an authorization for a turbo
replacement.

B: If smoke DOES NOT RETURN after the repeat idle test, NO other repairs
are to be performed at this time. Explain to the customer that MAZDA
is currently working on an improved positive crankcase valve (PCV)
system to reduce the engine crankcase pressures to allow the turbo's
oil supply to drain from the turbocharger more efficiently This fix
will be available approximately within 90 days and at that time the
oil will be changed back to 5W-30 and the improved PCV system will be
installed
 
Please pass this info on as much as possible. This is something that needs to get out.
 
hope this stops all the cry babies who think their turbos are blown without trying 5w40.
 
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....Explain to the customer that MAZDA
is currently working on an improved positive crankcase valve (PCV)
system to reduce the engine crankcase pressures to allow the turbo's
oil supply to drain from the turbocharger more efficiently This fix
will be available approximately within 90 days and at that time the
oil will be changed back to 5W-30 and the improved PCV system will be
installed....

Does this mean that the pcv valve will be a recall item? Could I get the valve even though I have not started smoking??
 
Does this mean that the pcv valve will be a recall item? Could I get the valve even though I have not started smoking??

I would hope so. At most you could buy it for a lil cash.


Wow...now that this should solve the problem. Next is the partial throttle tunning on the ECU and throwing rods.
 
there is a VERY important step in ALL of this... that you must provide proof of proper maintenance such as oil change, so for all the people like myself GOOD luck who change their own oil...
 
there is a VERY important step in ALL of this... that you must provide proof of proper maintenance such as oil change, so for all the people like myself GOOD luck who change their own oil...

I just emailed my dealer regarding this. I only keep a spreadsheet with dates, materials, mileage, interval, and average interval for my records. I don't know if that would be enough.
 
so what do we do regarding the pcv? do we call up and ask for it to be replaced? or do we have to wait until smoking starts?
 
Does this mean that the pcv valve will be a recall item?
typically recall items are safety related. something like this would more than likely be a TSB
Could I get the valve even though I have not started smoking??
it's up to your dealer. as a TSB usually the car has to exhibit the problem before they will fix it but if the dealer sees a ton of the same problem coming in they'll just complete the fix without asking questions.
 
Does this mean that the pcv valve will be a recall item? Could I get the valve even though I have not started smoking??

It sounds like it's not just the valve itself being the issue, but the entire PCV system that they are revising.
 

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So...does this mean ANYONE whose car is built before the date in question can go in to a dealership and get a revised PCV system? What about all the people with modded cars? the dealerships certainly won't honor warranties on theirs.
 
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