US Diesel's big splash introduction

[Xeler8ing]

(lol)

 

[Nelson de Leon]

Diesel on top spec Akera here is $3150.00 more than petrol equivalent

Over here it's $6,000 more expensive. And from the looks of it, I will be ending up with a fully loaded diesel version. I might be able to test drive it tomorrow.

 

[geodug]

It doesn't look like North America will get the manual transmission diesel. What are the details on the automatic? Is it a 3rd party unit also used by other manufacturers? Please don't tell me it is a CVT.

 

[Kaps]

2800 or so premium on diesel will hurt sales in USA. Economy wise it will take 15 years to pay back. Only good for folks living out of cities in areas with climbs etc.
Equinox has 1650 dollars premium. 2800 is steep.

 

[xtrailman]

In the uk I believe its the same as the US version, but we don't get sport mode.

It doesn't look like North America will get the manual transmission diesel. What are the details on the automatic? Is it a 3rd party unit also used by other manufacturers? Please don't tell me it is a CVT.

 

[Anchorman]

It doesn't look like North America will get the manual transmission diesel. What are the details on the automatic? Is it a 3rd party unit also used by other manufacturers? Please don't tell me it is a CVT.

Noo, it's the same good old 6 speed auto but as xt man says, no sport mode. It's tuned to change up at 2000rpm to get the best torque and sport mode would be wasted.

 

[Xeler8ing]

It doesn't look like North America will get the manual transmission diesel. What are the details on the automatic? Is it a 3rd party unit also used by other manufacturers? Please don't tell me it is a CVT.

We don't get manual diesel's here either. Stock 6 speed auto from petrol model is used

 

[CX-5um]

Noo, it's the same good old 6 speed auto but as xt man says, no sport mode. It's tuned to change up at 2000rpm to get the best torque and sport mode would be wasted.

If it is indeed the very same auto transmission its reassuring to know it can withstand all that torque...and easy work for the gas models

 

[Nelson de Leon]

If it is indeed the very same auto transmission its reassuring to know it can withstand all that torque...and easy work for the gas models

Yeah no sports mode. However, I think the reason why there's no sports mode is because its twin turbo.

 

[dyingquail]

2800 or so premium on diesel will hurt sales in USA. Economy wise it will take 15 years to pay back. Only good for folks living out of cities in areas with climbs etc.
Equinox has 1650 dollars premium. 2800 is steep.

Did I miss something on the price? I haven't seen anything on it from Mazda.

 

[Anchorman]

Yeah no sports mode. However, I think the reason why there's no sports mode is because its twin turbo.

No Nelson, it's because revving the engine has no benefit. You want that diesel down in the low rev lugging range.

 

[Nelson de Leon]

Ah where the peak torque is at more or less 2,000 rpm.

 

[Alan444]

2800 or so premium on diesel will hurt sales in USA. Economy wise it will take 15 years to pay back. Only good for folks living out of cities in areas with climbs etc.
Equinox has 1650 dollars premium. 2800 is steep.

But lots of people change cars every year or three. The residual re-sale value should be proportionately higher, thus you get some of the extra back.

 

[Unobtanium]

But lots of people change cars every year or three. The residual re-sale value should be proportionately higher, thus you get some of the extra back.

Maybe, maybe not. Might be a lot higher. Might be actually less. Depends on how hot they are on the lot.

 

[Xeler8ing]

Ah where the peak torque is at more or less 2,000 rpm.

Correct - it's primarily set up for initial get up and go along with towing

 

[Anchorman]

Thats it. Not much point revving above 3000rpm. If I’m overtaking over a longer stretch, I use the manual gear change to force upshifts as flooring the accelerator holds the lower gear but its very unnerving when you lose all the acceleration. Its something that will take some getting used to if you have never driven a diesel. You’ll know exactly what I mean when you get to drive one.

 

[Nelson de Leon]

Thats it. Not much point revving above 3000rpm. If I’m overtaking over a longer stretch, I use the manual gear change to force upshifts as flooring the accelerator holds the lower gear but its very unnerving when you lose all the acceleration. Its something that will take some getting used to if you have never driven a diesel. You’ll know exactly what I mean when you get to drive one.

I have driven a diesel almost all my life since the introduction of Isuzu Gemini 1980s in this part of the globe. Diesel that time only costs $0.10 per liter

 

[Xeler8ing]

Thats it. Not much point revving above 3000rpm. If I’m overtaking over a longer stretch, I use the manual gear change to force upshifts as flooring the accelerator holds the lower gear but its very unnerving when you lose all the acceleration. Its something that will take some getting used to if you have never driven a diesel. You’ll know exactly what I mean when you get to drive one.

It should pull like a train when needed and by the time you reach 3000rpm, you've already passed what ever it is you are passing with relative ease

 

[Nelson de Leon]

I wonder what's the ratio of each gear...

 

[Nelson de Leon]

And they labelled my unit as 2018 model. However when you ask the sales agent the difference from the 2017 model, he couldn't answer. [emoji16]