The 65 mpg Ford the U.S. Can't Have

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If ever there was a car made for the times, this would seem to be it: a sporty subcompact that seats five, offers a navigation system, and gets a whopping 65 miles to the gallon. Oh yes, and the car is made by Ford Motor, known widely for lumbering gas hogs.
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Ford's 2009 Fiesta ECOnetic goes on sale in November. But here's the catch: Despite the car's potential to transform Ford's image and help it compete with Toyota Motor and Honda Motor in its home market, the company will sell the little fuel sipper only in Europe. "We know it's an awesome vehicle," says Ford America President Mark Fields. "But there are business reasons why we can't sell it in the U.S." The main one: The Fiesta ECOnetic runs on diesel.

Automakers such as Volkswagen and Mercedes-Benz have predicted for years that a technology called "clean diesel" would overcome many Americans' antipathy to a fuel still often thought of as the smelly stuff that powers tractor trailers. Diesel vehicles now hitting the market with pollution-fighting technology are as clean or cleaner than gasoline and at least 30% more fuel-efficient.
Yet while half of all cars sold in Europe last year ran on diesel, the U.S. market remains relatively unfriendly to the fuel. Taxes aimed at commercial trucks mean diesel costs anywhere from 40 cents to $1 more per gallon than gasoline. Add to this the success of the Toyota Prius, and you can see why only 3% of cars in the U.S. use diesel. "Americans see hybrids as the darling," says Global Insight auto analyst Philip Gott, "and diesel as old-tech."
None of this is stopping European and Japanese automakers, which are betting they can jump-start the U.S. market with new diesel models. Mercedes-Benz by next year will have three cars it markets as "BlueTec." Even Nissan and Honda, which long opposed building diesel cars in Europe, plan to introduce them in the U.S. in 2010. But Ford, whose Fiesta ECOnetic compares favorably with European diesels, can't make a business case for bringing the car to the U.S.
Too Pricey to Import
First of all, the engines are built in Britain, so labor costs are high. Plus the pound remains stronger than the greenback. At prevailing exchange rates, the Fiesta ECOnetic would sell for about $25,700 in the U.S. By contrast, the Prius typically goes for about $24,000. A $1,300 tax deduction available to buyers of new diesel cars could bring the price of the Fiesta to around $24,400. But Ford doesn't believe it could charge enough to make money on an imported ECOnetic.

Ford plans to make a gas-powered version of the Fiesta in Mexico for the U.S. So why not manufacture diesel engines there, too? Building a plant would cost at least $350 million at a time when Ford has been burning through more than $1 billion a month in cash reserves. Besides, the automaker would have to produce at least 350,000 engines a year to make such a venture profitable. "We just don't think North and South America would buy that many diesel cars," says Fields.
The question, of course, is whether the U.S. ever will embrace diesel fuel and allow automakers to achieve sufficient scale to make money on such vehicles. California certified VW and Mercedes diesel cars earlier this year, after a four-year ban. James N. Hall, of auto researcher 293 Analysts, says that bellwether state and the Northeast remain "hostile to diesel." But the risk to Ford is that the fuel takes off, and the carmaker finds itself playing catch-updespite having a serious diesel contender in its arsenal.
 
I want to smack a Ford exec. if I see one on the street. Ship the engines to Mexico and have the rest of the car produced there. Slap a green leaf badge on it and market it as the next prius. God damn, why don't they try something different than the formula that's bleeding cash for them?!?!
 
instead of smacking the ford people you should smack the american consumer...thats going to be the main reason we probably wont see this vehicle because the way most americans see diesel powered cars is exactly how this article states... It would be a risky business move to bring them here only to face the possibility that no one would buy them because they're diesel powered....

I know we know its stupid for them to think that, but we know the benefits of diesel...the normal uninformed consumer will say "Ew.....Im not driving a diesel!"
I want to smack a Ford exec. if I see one on the street. Ship the engines to Mexico and have the rest of the car produced there. Slap a green leaf badge on it and market it as the next prius. God damn, why don't they try something different than the formula that's bleeding cash for them?!?!
 
^^^ Then I'm slapping the next person I see!

In all seriousness, I agree with you, but there are other companies sharing the risk with other manufacturers that are bringing over products as well. If everyone is saying "it's OK to drive diesel", then you have a better shot of changing people's minds.

Ford is going to do the same thing that they always do; play it safe and wait until the market is saturated with other products before they move. Domestic manufacturers need to take some risks if they are going to move beyond stagnation. IMHO, of course...
 
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you're probably correct, but given Fords current financial status, i dunno if they can afford to take any risks in their eyes, ya know?
Ford is going to do the same thing that they always do; play it safe and wait until the market is saturated with other products before they move. Domestic manufacturers need to take some risks if they are going to move beyond stagnation. IMHO, of course...
 
I don't think people would be willing to pay more for this over the Prius, plus it's diesel which is almost $1 more per gallon.
 
if you want to slap somebody, slap a GM exec for the crap diesel cars of the '80s. they destroyed american's opinions of passenger car diesels.

ford GM and Chrysler all think the same thing about diesels engines - all they would do is displace their own gasoline engine sales, for zero net gain. really smart MBAs with impeccible breeding can't be wrong.

personally I'd buy a 65mpg diesel fiesta in a heartbeat (better yet a diesel mazda 2), but won't touch their gasoline offering.
 
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