Sunroof
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I work for a salvage yard and we have mitchell books showing different parts of a car. in a P5 it shows to have a front and rear reinforcement, and a sedan shows to only have a center reinf. also not saying I know everything about cars but that is what is in the crash books.
.........LMAO @ n00bs who dont know how to use search.
hey murph1379, see that bar? it saved my life.
why do u think top of the line model like MSP didnt come with sunroof from factory?
because engeneers there did not feel safe putting one on.
sunroof company will make u sign a waiver limiting their responsibility.
they will only cover leaks, not you compressed spine.
hey murph1379, see that bar? it saved my life.
why do u think top of the line model like MSP didnt come with sunroof from factory?
because engeneers there did not feel safe putting one on.
sunroof company will make u sign a waiver limiting their responsibility.
they will only cover leaks, not you compressed spine.
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UnNaturalinc
Formerly"HorsepowerFreak"
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Dr.Sound said:
They probably didn't put in a sunroof for the same reason they didn't put in cruise control (which I don't think there is an actual reason). Didn't some Proteges come with sunroofs? What would be the difference if it was an MSP or not? Lots of factory cars come with sunroofs, targa, convertible, etc... If they wanted a sunroof and wanted it safe it could be done. Aftermarket is another story. Although it looks as if there is plenty of room to put one in front of that bar. :shrug:
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- 2003 Subaru WRX Wagon, 2000 Miata
i had a moonroof in my p5, now i have a msp. it's not something that i missed that much. maybe only used it to really vent the car when i parked in the sun.
HorsepowerFreak said:
I partially don't agree. No sunroof, No cruise, plastic i/c pipes, intercooler farmed from a turbo diesel euro truck, = MONEY SAVINGS.
Mazda spent a tonn of $$ developing the MSP, so to keep the cost down and make it affordable they skipped on a few items (see list above).
As far as the sunroof is concerned, it was omitted to keep structural integrity in place. The MSP was designed to be a true sports sedan and to keep handling at its best, structural integrity is a MUST.
Don't believe me, go ask Racing Beat....
UnNaturalinc
Formerly"HorsepowerFreak"
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- '03.5 MSP, '87 RX-7 TII, '80 Chevy Luv, '05 Honda CRF230
evolv said:
What I was saying is you can have a sunroof w/ out making the car loose structural integrity. As we all know, there are a large number of high-end cars that have sunroofs and other open roofed setups that are completely safe and handle like a racecar. Safer and better handling than a Protege. Lamborghini, Ferrari, Porsche, Lotus, Bugatti, Mercedes, etc, etc. A Mazda sedan is pretty small potatoes in the big picture of vehicles.
The MSP came w/ out ANY options what so ever to keep costs down. If they can make batches of cars with out any specific changes they build them for a cheaper price. To add a sunroof would add even more cost to an already expensive sport sedan. I mean really, there's only so much you can charge for a FWD 4-door grocery getter. But having a sunroof is obviously more than possible, just not reasonable. I would not have spent an extra 2k or whatever for my MSP to have a sunroof.
*I don't mean to sound like I'm bashing on Mazda, the Protege, or the Mazdaspeed project. I absolutely love my car and it's capabilities. I realize it is just a souped up sedan however.
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how? if you are not cutting support beams you dont affect support. That beam in the roof is far enough back that you could put a sun roof in no problem, with out cutting that beam. the spot ware the sun roof would go is just sheet metal.
Notes how your side roof beams did not smash down more then a inch. The only way your roof is going to totally claps is if your car was dropped right on its top. and that would have to be from a ways up. The roof beams are a very strong part of your car.
Notes how your side roof beams did not smash down more then a inch. The only way your roof is going to totally claps is if your car was dropped right on its top. and that would have to be from a ways up. The roof beams are a very strong part of your car.
jurgs01 said:
Can you feel the support beam through the underside of the roof? If so, I will check to see if mine is missing behind my moonroof.
I just can't see them cutting it out completely.
My guess would be maybe....just maybe...they cut part of it out and weld in the rectangle shape of the moon roof.
jurgs01 said:
from looking at that pic there is more then 13in of room for a sun roof.
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