Nothing but Trouble: Used Cars to Avoid Like the Plague

Kedis82ZE8

'15 CX-5 AWD GT w/Tech Pkg
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http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2017/03/used-cars-avoid-like-plague/

I know many don't like CR but their user submitted reliability reports have been fairly accurate in my experience. I am not talking vehicle reviews here but the annual surveys submitted by subscribers.

EDIT: I'll have to look in my April issue on what are the '16 Mazda 3 went down in reliability. Surprised by that one.

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"Navigating the new car market can be treacherous, but the used market is significantly larger and riddled with more hidden pitfalls. Used cars also offer the best potential value for your money, provided you don’t end up with a lemon. Even something that passes your initial scrutiny might be a few months away from becoming a clattering heap.

Fortunately, Consumer Reports keeps a running tally on the worst second-hand garbage that money can buy. Taken from its most recent ranking, here are some of the more common models from the last 10 years that scored so poorly in reliability that they aren’t even worth your consideration.

Luxury vehicles, which used to have over-sized and under-strained motors, were a fairly safe bet in the past. You could scoop one up for a fraction of what it was new and comfortably watch the odometer rack up the miles. Things are a little more complicated now that the segment doesn’t only include only soft sedans with a detuned engine. Avoid Infiniti’s JX from 2013 and the QX60 from 2014. Other bad eggs include Lincoln’s 2015-2016 MKC and 2013 MKS, Volvo’s 2015 S60 and 2016 XC90, and Acura’s 2015-2016 TLX.

Buick’s 2008-2011 Enclave isn’t worth your time, nor is the 2009 Lacrosse or 2008 Lucerne. Cadillac’s ATS from MY 2013 and 2015 suffered from well below average dependability, as did Escalades from the last three model years.

If German cars are more to your liking, BMW’s 3 and 5 Series both have a poor reputation for reliability between the 2008 and 2012 model years. The 4 Series also didn’t do well in 2014. Mercedes-Benz had at least one bad year for most of its models. Among the more common choices was the 2015 C-Class, 2011 M-Class, 2015 S-Class, and 2016 GLE. Audi’s 2009-2010 A4 and last year’s A3 should also be avoided.

Volkswagen had a smattering of duds, largely dependent upon model year. The ones you’re most likely to see in used lots are the 2010 and 2016 Golf, 2012-2013 GTI, 2007 and 2014 Passat, 2011-2013 Tiguan, and basically any Jetta from 2010 to 2016 — though some years were better than others.

Mini’s Cooper should also be sold with an optional red flag for the 2007-2011 and 2015 model years.

On the North American front, other commoner-friendly cars to watch out for are the 2011-2013 Chevrolet Cruze, 2010-2011 Chevy Equinox, 2012 Sonic, 2007-08 Chrysler PT Cruiser, 2013 200, the 2014-2015 Dodge Charger, 2013 Dart, basically every Dodge Journey ever made, Ford’s 2013 Escape, the 2011-2014 Fiesta, and 2012-2016 Focus. I also wouldn’t sign off on payments for a GMC’s 2007-2014 Acadia anytime soon.

If you’re into larger vehicles with more ground clearance, the trucks and SUV segments had some exceptionally deficient offerings. The worst included Chevrolet Silverado 2500HD’s from 2012 onwards, (obviously) GMC Sierra 2500s from the same years, Yukon and Yukon XLs from 2014-2015, Chevy Suburbans from 2014-2016 and 2008, 2014-2016 Tahoes, Ford F-250s from 2008, 2010, and 2014, the 2012 Expedition, 2014 and 2016 Ram 1500, and most 2500s from 2012 or later. Toyota’s only dud turned out to be the 2016 Tacoma.

Japan and Korea faired much better overall, however there were some dark spots on its resume. Last year’s Honda Civic is a no-no, as is the Nissan Rouge from 2014, Juke from 2012, and 2013 Sentra. You should also take a pass on the 2009 Subaru Impreza and 2008 Outback, along with Mazda’s 5 and 3 from 2008 and 2016, respectively.

Minivans that didn’t make the grade were Chrysler’s Town and Country from 2008-2012 and the Dodge Caravan from those same model years.

Jeep was chock-full of ill-advised purchases, with the 2007, 2008 and 2015 Wrangler being the most heartbreaking. Other potential lemons included Cherokees and Renegades from the last couple of years and practically every Grand Cherokee built after 2011. Additional FCA flotsam and jetsam came in the form of the 2012, 2013, and 2015 Fiat 500.

While vast, this collection is by no means complete and focuses on more typical passenger vehicle offerings from used car dealerships. I would recommend checking out Consumer Reports’ complete listings to see if a model you’ve had your eye on might begin to evaporate once you take ownership."
 
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The BMW 3 series issue Is bet was primarily with the 335 and its High Pressure Fuel Pumps. They are notoriously unreliable and BMW relented by offering 100k warranties on the system.

My 328 was impeccable except for the time rodents chewed up some cables.


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The BMW 3 series issue Is bet was primarily with the 335 and its High Pressure Fuel Pumps. They are notoriously unreliable and BMW relented by offering 100k warranties on the system.

My 328 was impeccable except for the time rodents chewed up some cables.


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My experience with NA BMWs were that they easily get into high 150,000 mileage from a mechanical standpoint....as long as you do frequent engine/tranny oil changes and upgrade their water pumps. Their water pumps were designed as to be minimally invasive of the engine's power output. What I did not like were their cheapo window regulators and AC components. Loved their stock braking systems. Even non-M powered BMWs get huge rotors.
 
This reminds me of my 07 Scion tC. Huge liftback that can swallow pretty much. Great moonroof - basically a Camry engine with 30% less weight. Interiors was ok - Orange colored lol. After buying realized its reliability is legendary - the rear trunk opener needs to be used correctly else it snapped - but everything else was stellar. 26 mpg all day in those days and the power was cool.
 
I have 335d and it also has issues with carbon build-up on the intake. while this is an issue with all direct injection engines it is particularly problematic with the m57 diesel engine as it can't easily (and cheaply) be cleaned off with walnut blasting. it requires taking the intake off and sending it out for cleaning. Also with the EGR in the diesel you end up with really back CBU. In my car I had to get it cleaned of after just 30k miles. I was just out of warranty and BMW agreed to cover half of the $1500 as a goodwill gesture.

Otherwise my E90 3-series has been solid.
 
I just looked at the Mazda 3 on CR. It gets an overall of much worse than average for reliability. But when you click on the details, the paint/trim is average, power equipment is slightly better than average and the audio system is average. All others are better than average. So why is the overall so low?! Its predicted reliability score is 72 where 82 was the highest in the class.
I did a ton of research before buying the CX5 and I sort of gave up. CR liked the 2016 CX5, but Edmonds (using JD Power data) showed it was only average. And Edmonds showed the Escape as higher reliability than the CX5. But CR has the opposite with the 2016 being slightly above average (except for audio system) and the Escape being below average. The CRV is rated highest in the class, but I test drove on and its vibrations at a stop were horrid! I can't imagine the tranny would survive the vibrations over a long time. I don't know who to trust!
 
The BMW 3 series issue Is bet was primarily with the 335 and its High Pressure Fuel Pumps. They are notoriously unreliable and BMW relented by offering 100k warranties on the system.

My 328 was impeccable except for the time rodents chewed up some cables.

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+1 my 2011 328 has 136,000 trouble free miles on her. Absolutely the most reliable car I have ever owned.
 
+1 my 2011 328 has 136,000 trouble free miles on her. Absolutely the most reliable car I have ever owned.

Every 3 series owner I know says the same, or the opposite. A 3-series is a bipolar purchase. Either you will hate it and it will be a POS like my friend's E46 M3, or it will be amazing and you will never take it to the shop and you won't understand BMW hate at all like my friend Wendy who's 3-series only issue in the history of ever was a flat tire.
 
Every 3 series owner I know says the same, or the opposite. A 3-series is a bipolar purchase. Either you will hate it and it will be a POS like my friend's E46 M3, or it will be amazing and you will never take it to the shop and you won't understand BMW hate at all like my friend Wendy who's 3-series only issue in the history of ever was a flat tire.

TBF, M-Cars are expensive to maintain, and if someone isn't prepared to pay and maintain it the way needs to be, they should probably reconsider their selection. That's why I'd NEVER buy an off lease M-Car.
 
l would like to add that you can also view reliability data from the TrueDelta website. I am a user and add data for both my Mazdaspeed3 and CX-5 into their database.

My rule for buying used (so far I've never bought one yet, but other family members have), is to get CPO or only buy used if you know the car is reliable. If buying a performance car, always buy brand new.
 
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