need more power!

[Rick Jacobs]

Forgive me, because I know I already asked this once, but I forgot under what topic I posted it and caanot find it. Anyway, what is FS-ZE? I've seen those of you who have added an FS-ZE Intake cam, and I do not know what an intake cam is. I've also seen people mention FS-ZE in comparison to turbo. Are these two topics one in the same? Is FS-ZE a company or what?

That's my first question. The second is what should I add next? I have installed the AEM RAM intake. I'm looking to spend no more than $300-500. Some local friends have suggested a new header, but I wanted another MP3 owner's opinion. Thanks in advance.

 

[NC_MP3]

FS-ZE is the engine code for the Japanese engine that's in some Familia's (Protege's). There are a few versions of that car, the Sport 20 and a few more, but I think they are all basically the same car.

Anyway, the FS-ZE engine is the same as ours except for pistons, intake cam, ecu, and a few more parts I am sure. The FS-ZE makes ~170 HP.

As for what to get next, I would say the header but lemme get my car back and I will let you know how it does.

 

[Rick Jacobs]

thanks, man. That brings up a couple of more questions. How much is the FS-ZE and where can you purchase one? Are they used like the JDM engines you can get for the Civics or are they new?

 

[kep0ne]

they're used...i think if you can get a new one somewhere, but of course, you're gonna be paying a shitload more. most companies won't sell you an engine with a significant amount of miles on it anyway, so any used engine you would get should be in good condition. i believe on corksport.com they had one for about 2000 USD...if you looked around you might be able to save a few hundred dollars. running a turbo might be cheaper if you're competent enough do install it yourself...plus you'd get a higher output. you COULD get the fs-ze and turbo it, but since its 10.5:1 compression, there will be a high chance of deto. but i think if you have someone who can do some stand-alone tuning REALLY good...you could get it to work. hell, look at what XS did with the new celica.

 

[NC_MP3]

They are about $2K. Go to http://www.corksport.com

They are used JDM engines. I wouldn't buy one. You can spend the 2 grand plus the 1 grand you will spend to get it put in and get a turbo kit

 

[jonlisle20]

Rahne, like NC_MP3 and kep0 have said already it would be cheaper to go another route. You can get some pretty good gains from dropping in the FS-ZE intake cam (the cam that is in the Japanese FS-ZE engine), the Mazdaspeed exhaust cam, and high compression pistons (mazdaspeed or the stock FS-ZE ones). The cams alone could give you around 20 horsepower more at the flywheel. You can get all of these from www.corksport.com. Hopes this helps you out. Jon.

 

[Rick Jacobs]

thanks guys, I'm learning a lot. Does "at the flywheel" mean whp or bhp? Forgive my ignorance. Does anyone know what the whp for a bosal header is?

 

[70]

Just so you know, Mazda Motorsports sells the FS-ZE long block brand new I think...At least the price they have it on their site for, it should be new...

Just a thought...

 

[chaosi]

whp= wheel horse power..power to the wheels ..der
bhp= Brake horsepower. i believe this stands for stupid european way of saying horsepower, dont know where the brake comes into that.. no conversion necessary, same as hp rating at the flywheel

 

[jonlisle20]

If you go over to Mazdamotorsports.com and fill in the appropriate info in their online catalog search engine (93 Mazda MX-6, 2.0 DOHC I-4), the Bosal header will come up. The info they listed says that it can increase whp by "approximately" 8. This is the gains on the 93 MX-6 which does not have the power robbing cat right under the exhaust manifold that the MP3 has. In theory this header should give us more of a power gain by getting rid of the cat. If it does, and by how much, I don't know. Either way 8 whp is a great inprovement for $282! (plus custom installation) Hope this helps you out. Jon.

 

[NYCZMP3]

hey jon wher ein nj u from??...i live near paterson...

 

[jonlisle20]

NYCZMP3, I live in Tinton Falls off of exit 105/109 (either or) on the Garden State Parkway. (A.K.A. Nowheresville) Its around Eatontown, Redbank, Lincroft, Shrewsbury, etc. I don't know if any of this helps you or not. The one thing I do know is that you won't be seeing me driving around for a while. I just crashed my MP3 yesterday. You can read my sob story in MP3 General. Take it easy, Jon.