I visited 3 different dealerships yesterday to see if I could find some info about the Mazdaspeed. Of course I knew that if I was to find any good info, a dealership would be the last place to go. Anyhow, 2 of the dealerships hadn't even heard of the Mazdaspeed yet and I saw that as being pathetic. The 3rd one had some pretty new info. According to this guy only 250 dealerships in the US were going to be given the specific rights to sell the Mazdaspeed and that those 250 haven't been chosen yet. He also said that the engine was to be rated 205hp. Taking that into consideration, the 170 hp number that was given in all the press releases looks to be at the wheels. Of course, I don't believe anything a dealer tells me and they all have a pretty bad habit of talking out of their asses. So that's why I'm posting this in the Rumors forum. It would be nice if the hp was 205 at the crank though. I just wanted to share this info with you guys.