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ok, my buddies are ripping on me pretty good ever since I got my MP5. They keep telling me I bought a POS ford. Agreed, theres nothing worse than a Ford, but how much of Mazda does Ford actually own and what influnece? Is there any "ford" in the MP5? I know they team up on trucks (Ranger/B3000 and B4000) but their cars are completely seperate right?!!! Cuz I've driven a ford, and the MP5 is no d@mn ford...it handles far too well to be a ford...not to mention the fit and finish...100000x better than a ford...
 
first, not all fords are crap, i had a 91 escort that was very reliable, though i admit it didnt like going over 60mph.
ford owns a third of mazda, which under japanese laws gives them controlling stake in the company.
there is part sharing and the like for sure, but i dont think that ford got into mazda to mess with mazdas, i think its more like they got into mazda to tap into their ideas and have a japanese presence, and make $off the japanese reliability.
 
the motor from the p5 is a probe motor, but so far as i know thats the only ford in the p5. my dealer sticker said the p5 is 98% japanese. so my guess is the other 2% is ford. ford is mostly the money backing mazda. they also own jaguar, volvo, land rover, and aston martin. tell your friends that bit of info, and they should be off your back. if they think those bands are crap fords too, they know nothing about cars and you shouldnt take offense to anything they say.
 
AlturredMP5 said:
the motor from the p5 is a probe motor, but so far as i know thats the only ford in the p5. my dealer sticker said the p5 is 98% japanese. so my guess is the other 2% is ford. ford is mostly the money backing mazda. they also own jaguar, volvo, land rover, and aston martin. tell your friends that bit of info, and they should be off your back. if they think those bands are crap fords too, they know nothing about cars and you shouldnt take offense to anything they say.
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BINGO(bowdown)
 
wire harness is ford.

Pull out the plug on your ECU and its blue with that dreaded oval...
But i agree, I dont think ford bought into mazda to mess with it, They did it to clean up they're Rigs
 
Technically the motor in the Probe is a Mazda motor, IIRC. Same thing with the motor in the early '90s Escort. Mazda BP 1.8L. Basically the crappy ford cars were made tolerable by adding good Mazda motors.
 
Don't take this the wrong way but your friends are stupid :p. I helped my friend look for a new car recently, and she eventually decided on a protege. Anyway, she found this really nice P5 and she went and had a look, the idiot salesman asks her why she wants a mazda so bad and she tells him that she likes the car (styling, interior, etc.), she hasn't heard anything bad about it and that it's also japanese. Well as soon as the the salesman hears this he launches into a tyrade about how she doesn't know anything because mazda=ford and it's all built in america anyway, and how he's tired of everyone thinking mazda is japanese.
 
orlandomsp said:
Don't take this the wrong way but your friends are stupid :p. I helped my friend look for a new car recently, and she eventually decided on a protege. Anyway, she found this really nice P5 and she went and had a look, the idiot salesman asks her why she wants a mazda so bad and she tells him that she likes the car (styling, interior, etc.), she hasn't heard anything bad about it and that it's also japanese. Well as soon as the the salesman hears this he launches into a tyrade about how she doesn't know anything because mazda=ford and it's all built in america anyway, and how he's tired of everyone thinking mazda is japanese.
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i hope she didn't buy the car from him
 
if you bought a protege of any kind, iirc, you lucked out - it's nearly all japanese from the design to the body to the mechanical. again, if i'm not mistaken, they were all made in japan and shipped to elsewhere in the world. if you buy a standard 3 or 6 however... hahaha, you're 90+% ford - and made in north america. the speed3 and speed6 though are still mostly japanese and made in japan.
 
Please don't tell me that my msp has a ford motor in it. I was hoping that the 2% was like the rotors or something, that would explain all the rust on the them and the serious warping.
 
AlturredMP5 said:
the motor from the p5 is a probe motor, but so far as i know thats the only ford in the p5. my dealer sticker said the p5 is 98% japanese. so my guess is the other 2% is ford. ford is mostly the money backing mazda. they also own jaguar, volvo, land rover, and aston martin. tell your friends that bit of info, and they should be off your back. if they think those bands are crap fords too, they know nothing about cars and you shouldnt take offense to anything they say.
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:( don't call the Protege engine a ford, it makes Hiroshima and Matsuda himself cry!

edit: also the 6 is build in the U.S., but not the 3.

Hofu and Hiroshima plants ftw!
 
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well since someone said the motor is a japanese motor and the probe had the same japanese motor in it (iirc), im guessing the 2% is probably part of the interior pieces. like the door trimming and stuff like that. but ive also heard that bmw had a hand in engineering the undercarriage and suspension on the p5.

ford bought all these companies b/c in order to make it in their business, you have to own something. they have the rights to the companies, thats it.
kinda like if you have the rights to a beatle's song. you own the song, but you didnt write it or perform it.
 
Yeah, the inside of my door clearly states Assembled and Manufactured in Japan...so the 2% is wiring harnesses and US market only stuff.....I've had plenty of Mazdas, when it was a B3000, I was proud it was 1/2 Ford, when it's a 626, I'm proud it's all Mazda....
 
Just know that the Protege is all Mazda and the F-series engine (as good and bad as it is :) ) is Mazda designed. Otherwise, why would Ford have had two different 2.0L engines between the one in the Focus and the FS-DE?
 
Ford owns 33% of Mazda all financial. Sure they do share some things but almost all of the P5 is Mazda. Sure the some of the harness is Ford but THE ENGINE IS ALL MAZDA, NOT OUT OF A PROBE. The European Focus uses the Mazda 2.0L engine. I hate that there are so many people that say Mazda and Ford are the same.
 
the only time id want to own a ford (or any domestic) is if i drove a truck, cuz the japanese dont know whats up with trucks lol
but i hate domestics, so i dont see that ever being a problem.
i think the only truck that the japanese have gotten decent is the titan 5.6 v8, that thing is pretty beast ill admit
 
toyota has some badass trucks too. like that turbo or supercharged (cant remember) tundra was so friggin badass
 
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