I guess I had better start over cuz we are way off topic now. To clear things up I would never buy an SRT-4, I was just making a price comparison point. Im not even in the market for a new car, we were just shopping for my friend and I let the sales rep sucker me in so I could take a joy ride. Im not hating on miatas. I own one and Ive loved everything about mine since Ive owned it. And Im not hating on the MSM. I did like the car. I felt right at home in it and it did handle very well. I guess all I wanted to know was if there is anyone else out there that may have hoped for smoother, bigger power.
Mazdaspeed MX-5: Sorely dissapointed
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TampaBlackMSP
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Welcome to this site.Midehv said:
Mazdaspeedgirl
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Come on, Midehv. You can't POSSIBLY let one person's "retarded" comment run you off. ?!?!? Count how many people have posted well thought out, polite posts in this thread. THEY are who really counts, right?
PimpDaddyJ
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All I can say is after I test drove the MSM, I told my brother to buy it, or I would give him my MSP and buy it. Had the car for a week now, nothing like cruzin with the top down on the highway, handles mint, has great pickup, and a nice interior. Going back to a comment made earlyer about the srt-4, they are nice cars, test drove one before the MSM, but when it comes down to it, I would rather have a great balance of speed and handleing, than high speed and less than expected handleing.
Midehv said:
Ehh this thread is old but what the hell.... I'll bite. Both MSM's I have driven have been fully spooled by 3600 RPM if not lower. And they pulled HARD for the amount of stock boost being fed them. They also were just as tossable if not more than any other Miata I have driven. Body roll was minimal and the oversteer was predictable and very easy to control. And if you have owned several cars you would know that turbos spool down between shifts
If any dealer says a car is SO HOT they can tack on money. WALK. Don't b**** about it and don't believe it. If you pay more than sticker for any major production model you are an .....oh wait you are sensitive to name calling... you are not the best consumer in the world. There is always some dealer somewhere thats dying to unload something. There were delaers in SoCal trying to dump EVO8's for 24,900 last year.
Oh and comparing an Neon(in any form) to a Miata (in any form) is RETARDED. (Sorry I couldn't avoid it)
BinaryRotary
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JESUS CHRIST! WTF do you want for 26k? ITS A BALANCED CAR!!! NOT A VIPER!!Midehv said:
The Bowler
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<~~just got an '03 Evo8 for $27,8K otd. appx $1K over the cost of the MX-5...wanna race?
The Bowler said:
You are an idiot. If thats the case I just bought a used BPU Supra and installed a 120 dollar BCC and 350 Dollar EBC and still paid over 3K less than your EVO. Wanna Race?
I try to avoid ripping on the Neon too much but...
Your argument appears to hold water until you take into account the fact that the Integra, Golf and Protege were all very well balanced very highly rated cars (both critically and ownerwise) before being factory tuned
The Neon was well...... a neon.
FWIW, a dealer close to me is already knocking $1500 off the MSM's they've got... I was just up ther elast night and they've got about 6 sitting on the lot and more on the way...
http://www.townnorthmazda.com/tnm/Cars.nsf/NewVehicles/C5850E728EBDFA6B86256E6D005472FD?OpenDocument
http://www.townnorthmazda.com/tnm/Cars.nsf/NewVehicles/C5850E728EBDFA6B86256E6D005472FD?OpenDocument
I am kinda toying with the idea of trading my MSP in on a MSM! I wonder what are the advantages/disadvantages to each car and would there really be a driving difference between the two, which would justify the cost increase.
I wonder what kind of reply's this will get (dark) (protest) (hand) (pissed) (wedge) (stooges) (braindead (rant) (shocked) (smash) (no) (argh) (monkey) (screwy) (chair)
I wonder what kind of reply's this will get (dark) (protest) (hand) (pissed) (wedge) (stooges) (braindead (rant) (shocked) (smash) (no) (argh) (monkey) (screwy) (chair)
Mazdaspeedgirl
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Just test drive it. That's all I can say. 
There's something RWD does for me...mebbe it's the drift capability!
There's something RWD does for me...mebbe it's the drift capability! PimpDaddyJ
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Apocman, Ive been having to borrow my brothers MSM to get to work since the MSP is in the shop, MSM is definately more fun to drive, and before my cat fell off on the MSP, my brother was wipping my ass on the highway
Under the hood looks alot nicer as well, if you get a chance goto the dealership, pop the hood, sit in the car, tranny is way better than the MSP as well, as Mazdaspeedgirl said, just test drive it, you will want to leave with it (yes)
Under the hood looks alot nicer as well, if you get a chance goto the dealership, pop the hood, sit in the car, tranny is way better than the MSP as well, as Mazdaspeedgirl said, just test drive it, you will want to leave with it (yes)
BinaryRotary
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To bad I sold the TII, I coulda smoked you in a 10k dollar car.The Bowler said:
MazdaDryvr
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My mother has a 02 Miata, I dont fit in it very well so there's no way I would drive one on a daily basis. The one thing I think that the MSM has over the MSP is that it appears that Mazda took more care in the addition of a turbo to the Miata. At least the reveiws I have read and the pics I have seen make it seem so.
Mazdaspeedgirl
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yeah baby!BinaryRotary said:
Turbo is not my particular choice for auto-x, granted I drive an MSP. To be honest with you, I'd much rather be in a regular miata if I was driving in an auto-x course. Turbo powerbands are too irregular, especially when boost kicks in, and can throw the car's balance off mid corner. It's not a bad car, but I beg to differ that Mazda didn't have auto-x in mind when they developed the MSM. I've also heard that unflashed S2000's have the same problem mid corner with VTEC kicking in almost like a turbo would. The sudden surge of power just isn't good for a car's balance in a corner.Mazdaspeedgirl said:You guys are nuts.
I don't mean to pick on you, but I've always viewed drifting as the slow way around a track. Unless of course you're on a rally course. Drifting just seems like a showoff sport and waste of tires...you're into auto cross.. don't you agree?Mazdaspeedgirl said:Just test drive it. That's all I can say.
