Toyota's ThrottleGate Recall

Toyota recall extends to Europe

Toyotas mass recall of models affected by a sticking accelerator pedal will now extend to Europe.

The problem has previously believed to be isolated to models built and sold in the US, where more than eight million cars have so far been recalled. Details of the European recall will be confirmed later today or tomorrow.

A Toyota spokesman told Autocar that Toyota was working to resolve the issue as quickly as possible and safety was the firm's primary concern at this moment.

"Recalls are nothing new, but the size and volume of this one ensures it's going to be big news," said the spokesman. "It's important to get this sorted as soon as possible."

Accelerator pedal mechanisms in certain Toyota models have stuck in a depressed position or returned slowly to idle. This has caused several accidents in the US, but an exact number hasnt been released.
The Wall Street Journal claims Toyota first noticed problems with accelerator pedals in March 2007 in the Tundra pick-up. The problem surfaced again in the December 2008, where faults were discovered in right-hand drive Yaris and Aygo models, both of which are a common sight on UK roads.

The Journal also said a Toyota investigation found condensation from the affected models' heaters had caused friction in the accelerator pedals causing them to stick. From August 2009, Toyota fixed this problem in Europe by lengthening the arm of the friction lever and changing materials on all affected models.

Toyota has so far declined to comment on claims that more than two million European models would need to be recalled to fix the problem.
In a statement, Toyota said: "The details of corrective action and implementation will be communicated directly to customers with vehicles potentially affected. The models and exact number of potentially affected vehicles is under investigation.

"A running change in production using different parts has already been implemented model-by-model in the European production. Therefore there is no need or intention to stop production in Europe.

"Whilst this condition is rare we advise customers who have concerns to contact Toyota GB Customer Relations (0800 1388744) for assistance ahead of the recall instructions being issued."

Yesterday, Toyota suspended sales of eight models sold in the US that have been affected by the problem. Although Toyota maintains this was a voluntary decision, The Detroit News said the decision was required to be taken by law.

Discussing the US recall, Toyota vice president Bob Carter said: Helping ensure the safety of our customers and restoring confidence in Toyota are very important to our company.

This action is necessary until a remedy is finalised. We're making every effort to address this situation for our customers as quickly as possible.
Its shares in Japan fell 4.3 per cent yesterday and a further 3.9 per cent today.

It is still uncertain how this recall problem will affect Toyota's profits, said Masatoshi Sato, market analyst at Mizuho Investors Securities. But investors are worried it could really pressure the company's overall earnings."

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i remember once in a road trip with some mazda people a ford truck just caught on fire in the parking lot...

we saw it from start to finish, pretty crazy stuff
 
is that what caused them? i never looked into it, just figured "eh, its a ford"
 
just because i used to be on the forums ford also had an issue with the V8 SHO motors that they refused to address. Last i heard several years ago they had a class action law suit
 


What should you do if you drive a Toyota affected by the Japanese automakers latest massive recall? Toyotas answer just keep driving it.

At least thats the opinion of Toyota USA spokesman John Hanson, a day after Toyota said it would not only stop selling the affected models, but that it would stop producing them.

Toyota now, reportedly, has a new replacement part that will fix the problem of accelerator pedals that can become stuck. Toyota has yet to acknowledge this publicly, however, and insists that once a fix has been determined it will notify owners.

According to an internal memo obtained by Edmunds.com, Over time, some accelerator pedal mechanisms may become worn. As a result of this wear combined with certain operating and environmental conditions, friction in the mechanism may increase and intermittently result in the accelerator pedal being hard to depress, slow to return or, in the worst case, stick in a partially open position.

Those worried about driving one of the eight recalled vehicles (including the Camry, Corolla, RAV4, Matrix, Avalon, Highlander, Tundra and Sequoia) should know that the best way to stop a car with a sticking gas pedal is to apply the brakes and put the transmission into neutral. Then, once the vehicle is stopped, turn off the engine.

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i love our 2 rav4s... they are already in such a high demand that if they stop selling or producing them, there will be so much backordered... i dont think its blown out of proportion cuz it cost some lives but im just happy toyota is trying to fix it... not just saying F U...
 
i love our 2 rav4s... they are already in such a high demand that if they stop selling or producing them, there will be so much backordered... i dont think its blown out of proportion cuz it cost some lives but im just happy toyota is trying to fix it... not just saying F U...

Yes, they are trying to fix it NOW, after several months of "not sure" :D. They cannot say F U because they are legally liable, nothing else

I was talking with a manager of Enterprise Rent-A-Car. He says that 20% of the Hertz fleet is Toyota so they are in deep trouble due to lack of rentals to offer, problem is that the rest (National, Enterprise, Avis, you name it) do not have such a high number of Toyotas, but since they are also trying to cut Hertz' slack, in many cities they don't have enough inventory... it is a big chain reaction...
 
How cheap is too cheap?

Interestingly enough, this article came before all this production stopping bruhaha. I'm not trying to imply that the recall is due to cheap material components, but if you put your suppliers under costs pressure something has to give... or not? Also I'm sure gas pedals and related components have been taken off the proposed list, LOL

REPORT: Toyota cutting supplier expenses by 30%, probably means using cheaper parts

As with every other automaker heck, almost every other company Toyota wants to save more money. Japan's Asahi business daily revealed a Toyota initiative to lower its parts expenses by 30% over the next three years, and it is one that we're all too familiar with: Toyota told its suppliers to cut their prices by 30-40%. Can anyone guess how suppliers will most likely remove one-third the cost of their parts? If you said "use cheaper materials," we have your prize backstage...

A Toyota spokesman said the company had given "various suggestions including cost reductions" to the affected portion of its supplier base, which makes it sound like at the very least the company didn't just say "Here's less money, make it work." There are more than 200 vehicle components involved the move that might sound sizable on its own but it's a tiny fraction of all the parts in a car.

Ultimately, Toyota wants to ensure its competitiveness in emerging markets and guard against a strengthening yen. Assuming the initiative is carried out, the parts in question will be used for cars arriving for the 2013 model year. We hope that by 2014 it is clear that Toyota chose the right bets for this game of parts roulette.


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Toyota readies pedal fix for dealers involving shims

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It's been over one week since Toyota first announced a recall affecting 2.3 million vehicles across eight model lines. The recall involves defective accelerator pedal mechanism that could stick due to wear and cause unintended acceration. Since then, Toyota and the supplier responsible for producing this part, CTS Corp., have already developed and begun producing a replacement for assembly plants in North America. Problem is, that doesn't help the 2.3 million owners who have recalled vehicles sitting in their driveways. Nor does it help Toyota dealers, who wouldn't be able to handle the complex job of replacing defective accelerator pedal mechanisms on so many vehicles. Finally, CTS Corp. doesn't have the capacity to make replacement parts for both the assembly plants that need them to continue operating and the millions of recalled vehicles already on the road.

Enter the humble shim. Toyota is almost done developing a simpler fix for dealers that involves "inserting a metal shim into a gap in the friction lever of the pedal," according to Automotive News. Doing so will reportedly reduce friction and prevent the pedal from sticking and causing unintended acceleration. Toyota is said to be busy testing the shim fix for durability and ease of installation as we speak.

Though the automaker has not officially acknowledged the shim solution nor when it will be ready for dealers, sources say we should expect some kind of remedy early next week.
 
Ghosn: "Some other car manufacturers (are) ... we won't,"

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Davos, Switzerland (CNN) -- Even as competitors rushed into the marketplace with deals to woo away Toyota customers, the head of the Renault Nissan said he believes Toyota's woes will be temporary.

"It is going to be short-lived. It is going to be on the short term," said Carlos Ghosn, chairman and CEO of Renault Nissan, speaking to CNN's Richard Quest at Davos.

Toyota recalled 5.3 million vehicles in the United States, as well as vehicles in Europe and China, for problems related to stuck gas pedals.

On Thursday Ford offered a $1,000 bonus for buyers in the U.S. who trade-in a Toyota. GM, Mazada and Hyundai also introduced new deals in the wake of Toyota's troubles. Will Renault Nissan do the same?

"Some other car manufacturers (are) ... we won't," Ghosn said. "Our strategy in the U.S is a long-term strategy. You know, trying to get advantage of three or four weeks opening is not part of the tactics that we use."

For Renault Nissan -- like other global carmakers -- China holds the greatest promise. "This is a car market which is very recent," Ghosn said. "That means Chinese consumers are discovering new brands, they are discovering new cars. So, it is an open book."

The European market, meanwhile, faces a glut of too many manufacturers chasing too few customers.

"You want to reduce (car capacity in Europe) by shutting down plants ... (and) by reducing the capacity inside existing plants," Ghosn said. "And you want to make sure also, that at the same time you are doing this, you are supporting other markets, Middle Eastern market, African market, Eastern European market, by building plants in these markets."

Yet carmakers in Europe are hesitant to shut down plants. "There were plenty of opportunities to do it and nobody did it," he said. "And nobody did it for a very good reason -- the cost of shutting down plants in Europe would be very high."


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Kudos for Nissan. On the other side I believe Toyota's commercials will be less cocky from now on, they started to get really obnoxious...
 
Kudos for Nissan. On the other side I believe Toyota's commercials will be less cocky from now on, they started to get really obnoxious...

Honda is also staying clear of the feeding frenzy that has come out of ThrottleGate.
 
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