ok guys i dont know
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Ryan said:
No even that so much as new inexpenisve perfomance car draws alot of immature people and inevitably the very reasonable and mature people with the same car get wrongfully lumped into the same gourp and then singaly labled.
Ofcoarse once lumped together the entire group is then pissed and with good cause.
I don't know I am out of ideas at this point.
A better word indeed.
I already took blaim for it (thumb)
http://www.msprotege.com/vbb225/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29268
I already took blaim for it (thumb)
http://www.msprotege.com/vbb225/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29268
Stormtrooper77
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Okay, now that that's all done. Does the MSP not have insulation under the hood for the heat? Just concerned because if it's getting that hot, in the long run the paint's condition (beit bad or not) will start to deteriorate. Maybe the heat and paint chipping are connected? I don't know, it just what I think.
So the next MSP will be the Miata hey? Well, if I can't get this one there's no way I will get the Miata unless I have another vehicle.
How limited are the current MSP's anyway? I know the first model was only 500 for Canada.
So the next MSP will be the Miata hey? Well, if I can't get this one there's no way I will get the Miata unless I have another vehicle.
How limited are the current MSP's anyway? I know the first model was only 500 for Canada.
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t3ase said:I think I'm one of the members 1st is talking about. I've gone to the dealership with literally a collge ruled piece of paper *full* with things wrong with my car. I even had to write in the margins to fit it on on the front.
Here is a list of the problems I've had for your buying information:
The one big thing that pissed me off is that my clutch went out around the 10,500 mile mark. I had to have the dealership pick up the car on a flat bed because it wouldn't move at all. This is my first stick and I did tear into it more than a few times. However, after talking to some of the guys at the local car meets and a guy at a local performance shop, there should be no way I can burn up a clutch that fast unless I have the clutch floored constantly with the gas. Prior to this happening, I did tell the dealership that the clutch seemed to act funny and "hang" a few times. For instance, when accelerating normally at a light, I'd push the gas down and the RPMs would climb but the car would not go anywhere. I'd let off the gas, reapply the clutch, do it again, and it'd work fine. When it was towed in, however, it seems the dealership just happned to "forget" that I had mentioned that and blamed the clutch problem on abuse and racing. Only "evidence" they had was that my front tires were worn down quite a bit, but in my defense, I told them that the car had been driven for around 12k miles without a rotation on some pretty tough road surfaces. After a long phone call with the service manager, they finally replaced the clutch after a long-winded "racing is bad" speech.
Driver's side CV axle went out at around 14k.
Brakes grind at low speed, even when going straight. (Dealership said it's a characteristic of the car.)
Pulls left pretty hard during braking most of the time but occasionally pulls right. (Dealership said it's a characteristic of the car.)
Notchy shifter. Often VERY difficult to get into first from neutral, if not impossible for a while. (Dealership said it's a characteristic of the car. I had the dealership switch the tranny fluid to GM Syncromesh when they replaced the CV axle. That did help it out quite a bit.)
Falls on it's ass and doesn't get back up when it heats up or gets hot tempature-wise. (Hesitation issue which is supposed to be fixed with the new ECU flash.)
Plastic pipes breaking while driving causing car to surge, sputter, buckle, and then finally stall. (Namely the intercooler pipe which connects to the BPV. This has happened twice now.)
A/C compressor making hissing noise when A/C is engaged. (New "cool" dealership ordered a new compressor for me with out any problems. The new one still makes the noise, though. The other MSPs around here do not have this noise and I cannot replicate it at any specific time so the dealership cannot diagnose problem properly.)
Coolant actually boiling over and out of the resevoir when the car was turned off. (This has happened four times now. It seems as though there's something pushing all of the coolant out of the radiator and forcing it back into the resevoir. Coolant actually boils out through the lid of the resevoir and onto engine bay leaving a white residue. Not sure how this stuff affects paint, but if it discolors it, I'll be pissed. Neither dealership knows what the cause of this would be.)
Battery has died four times and car would not start unless jumped. (The last time it happened was in Colorado and it would not jump, so I had to go buy a DieHard Gold series battery to replace it. This did solve the dimming headlight problem, though.)
Squeaky clutch. (When idle or off, if the clutch is depressed, there's a squeaky sound from under the car. Dealership fixed this but now the pedal itself squeaks when fully depressed. Annoying, but I guess I can deal with it.)
Clutch pedal has bent to the left. (This is a recent addition. I'm not sure why, but in relation to my other pedals, the clutch pedal is now angled to the left a bit. Example (clutch, brake, throttle): / | | )
Radio's plastic surround piece squeaking. (Dealership fixed this at the expense of scratching this piece and the headunit face all to hell. Dealership replaced the piece after my bitching over two days.)
Blown subwoofer. (Fixed once but they just swapped the entire trunk setup w ith a newer 2003.5 model. Same rack but the amp looks different. After replacing, there's now a rattle from the amp rack hitting the top of the trunk.)
Amp overheating and popping fuses with stock sub, even with NF level of -05. (Sub was replaced at above time but I'm running two JL 10W0s now, so I'm not using the stock sub at all. Problem solved.)
During playback, the Kenwood HU comes to the halfway closed position and stops. Resetting it is the only fix. (Dealership still does not have this in stock, even after telling me it was in.)
HU randomly does not remember previous settings sometimes. This mainly applies to the audio setup menu where you select bass, mid, treble frequency and stuff. I've practically memorized the menu's of it from setting it up so many times.
Antenna connector on rear window has come off of the glass and is just hanging there. (Fixed with some gooey gunk stuff found at a local car audio place.)
Black window trim on rear passenger door is bubbling. (May be just a weird flaw, but it's there. I've been told the black trim is just tape and can be easily replaced, but dealership wants to send my car to the body shop for a day. I'm not too keen about sending my car out while I'm not around, so that may not happen for a while.)
Cigarette lighter coming out of the socket. (Dealership fixed this but the voltage reading coming from the cigarette ligher is about 2 volts lower than that voltage from the constant power wire at ignition harness. Weird.)
Alarm left parking lights on after car was off & armed. (This has happened twice and is becoming a popular problem with this car. I'm waiting for this third unit to do it.)
Squeaky driver seat. (Still does it at times, not enough to go to the dealership though.)
Squeaky seatbelt. (Again, not enough to warrant a trip to the dealer.)
Airbox duct elbow keeps falling off and will not stay connected to the airbox. (It has since fallen off somewhere and I no longer have it. You'd think Mazda could mold all of the plastic together or something.)
Glovebox plastic slightly discolored above handle. (Oddly enough, it's a bit whiter above the handle. Can't really do much there.)
White mold appeared inside of headlight lens over directional (amber) lens. (Very annoying and will not come off. I've even opened up my headlights and tried cleaning it off but nothing will take it off. I'm tempted to put my corner lenses back in, clean up the sealant and take it back to have them replace it.)
Cargo net clips in trunk have broken off completely. (I've since given my cargo net to my neighbor for his car.)
Thin ass paint. My hood has more chips than I'd ever like to see in a 4 month old new car.
Tires wear out WAY too fast and do not provide decent grip in rain. (I guess this is just how high-performance tires are. Maybe less time between rotations would help this.)
Hard water deposits from the docks which have still not come off. (I still cannot get these off. I'm thinking they've pretty much baked themselves onto the glass. You can't notice it that much anymore unless the window is wet and you look really closely.)
Weather stripping around left sidemarker became warped and was letting water behind the light. (Not really a big deal but it may cause the light to short out. That may not be a threat though, I'm not too sure.)
Center console/armrest now squeaks at the "latch". Can't really do much there, I don't think.
Finally got the clunk. I looked at the sway bar when washing the car and sure enough, the bushing had cracked. (New dealership ordered without any problem.)
The following are not really dealership problems but they're worth mentioning..
This car gets VERY hot. Even if I let the car sit idle for a few minutes, the hood gets to the point where you cannot put your hand on it too long. That cannot be good for the life expectancy of this car.
There's no stock boost gauge. Expect to pay around ~100 USD for an accurate, durable gauge.
Mazda is VERY slow at releasing any Mazdaspeed line products. There's a rumor that a new IC will be available soon, however, it still stays in the stock position, so I'm not holding my breath. The main problem with the stock IC as-is is the placement. It just doesn't get the airflow it should, so why invest more money only to suffer from the same problem?
Also along the "slowness" lines.. Mazda has released 2 ECU flashes for the more popular Mazda 6 car which was more recently released than the MSP. One flash was to fix the CEL from randomly coming on. Yet we have a car that runs WAAAAAY too rich and it falls on it's ass because of it and we're just now hearing about a possible flash with an unknown public release date.
I think that's it for now.. I'll definately have to find my list I got back from the dealership. It has a few more things on it but I cannot remember it all.
Take these things with a grain of salt. This may just be the oddball of the bunch, as not too many other people have had these issues other than the hesitation, clunk, and alarm brain.
Good luck and be sure to check out the SRT-4. The members here talk a lot of s*** about them but I'd definately get one now if I didn't already have 17,800 miles on my MSP. However, I have NEVER received so many compliments on any car I've ever had than I have this one. I wish you the best.
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