What grounding kit did you use?This has to be the easiest install, ever.
I hope someone else will do this mod and log their results at WOT....
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What grounding kit did you use?This has to be the easiest install, ever.
I hope someone else will do this mod and log their results at WOT....
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I use to make kits for the Gen3 Hemis, Charger, Jeep, Challenger, Ram guys 10 years ago.What grounding kit did you use?
Class racers are looking for every HP they can find. An extra 15 HP wins races.I work with a guy who races dirt tracks. He said they use this "mod". He knew what it was right away
Perhaps reduced noise reduces errors in ignition and fuel commands. OTOH, this sounds like the K&N argument; more flow capacity must mean more power, whether the engine can ingest it or not. It is just too easy for the engineering team to design a larger air filter or add a ground strap if it gives 15 more HP (8%!!).I'm guessing, if this works, that maybe the ground is siphoning off the electronic noise from the engine management system, allowing better data flow between electronic modules making things more efficient? I dunno. Also agreeing with HyFlyer. I'm told that the head, head gasket, and block acts like a capacitor ,and the ground strap is an electronic siphon.
I bet he didn't need to see 20 or 30 posts in the past 30 days confirming this and a dozen dyno tests to put this mod on his car.
Sure, connect to the battery neg if you like. It made 15 HP on a 6.1l v8. My guess it makes less on our 2.5l.Perhaps reduced noise reduces errors in ignition and fuel commands. OTOH, this sounds like the K&N argument; more flow capacity must mean more power, whether the engine can ingest it or not. It is just too easy for the engineering team to design a larger air filter or add a ground strap if it gives 15 more HP (8%!!).
OP, how do you think the straps works to increase HP? Why the head and not the block? Does it help to connect to the negative battery terminal instead?
Warning noted. Thank you for not banning me.Let's remember that we're here to share information and learn about our cars together. I know it can't always be sunshine and kumbaya around the campfire, but we should encourage each other when possible. There's nothing wrong with asking questions.
My 2024 also already has a ground strap. It's attached to a bracket with some other smaller wires.My 2016.5 already has a ground strap running from the right-rear of the head to the right strut tower. It appears to be at least 8 gauge.
I love pushrod V8s. Owned an LS1 WS.6 for a few years. That 5.7L motor worked out to around 75-80 hp/L with the longtube headers.Interesting that our wiz bang high tech, high compression 2.5l makes 74.8 HP/L and an old school pushrod, low compression 6.4L Hemi makes 75.8 HP/L. As a general rule, as displacement increases, HP/L degreases. Neither of these are on the cutting edge compared to race engines. It's pretty common to get +130 HP/L out of a NA 8L pushrod race engine at 14:1 cr these days.
Nice find. I have laid a large gauge ground cable on top of Toyota Camry grounds and pick up power and FE. Try this for your self and report back!My 2024 also already has a ground strap. It's attached to a bracket with some other smaller wires.
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Warning noted. Thank you for not banning me.
I commend you on being a moderator. I moderate a FB page and have to weigh if I want to warn, delete a comment and/or ban a person. It's often a judgement call.
I'm frustrated reading the same discouraging reasoning I delt with 10 years ago. I encourage ALL to prove it right or wrong rather than sit behind a keyboard.
I find these finely crafted negative comments discouraging as well. Examples, Snake Oil or this data is 10 years old or I need more posts or data confirming this works, doesn't encourage me to try something and share it with this community. I will play by this forums rules. I only ask that the rules be applied evenly.
This post was started to help our community improve performance and FE. I was sarcastic in the post above, take responsibility for it and offer my apology if it discourage or offended any fellow members. I'm new to this forum and still learning what is permissible or not.
Please delete this if this is doesn't fall within the guidelines of this forum.
Again, thank you for doing this thankless job!
2023 has the same ground strap. I would be surprised if they all don't have it. hard to tell where the lower bracket is attached too but looks like the block. Next time I change oil I will look up from below and see but best I could see is a bracket that appears to go to the block.My 2024 also already has a ground strap. It's attached to a bracket with some other smaller wires.
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Yes in practice. You will want an unpainted/uncoated surface to have a low resistance connection.I intend to get tuned and dyno this year or next. It would be easy to do an extra pull with a ground connected if I had it preinstalled.
I did wonder about the head vs block connection. I had read somewhere that one may be better than the other but I'm not sure how to choose--do you want the one with less resistance?
the ground strap on mine are definitely going to brackets that are painted/powder coated.Yes in practice. You will want an unpainted/uncoated surface to have a low resistance connection.
I use a star washer between th ground cable lug and car body. This digs in.the ground strap on mine are definitely going to brackets that are painted/powder coated.