Today, since i feel really bad, i decided to play some old school games ie PS1 games. i pulled out GT2 and wanted to try our cars(actually the 323f sport20 awd)after hearing that it was in that game. all i have to say is damn. that thing is so slow. even w/ the 170+- HP and AWD i barely ran a 17sec 1/4. even after a stage one turbo and a few minor mods the best i mustered w/ 230HP was a 14.66 1/4. thats pathetic. it definately was a trip playing that old game. we shall see how quick it is when i put the stage 3 turbo on it. can't wait for GT4 to come out on PS2. maybe they will actually have a real P5 in it....i doubt it though.