Detroit Three call Japan's cash-for-clunkers program unfair

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The U.S. Car Allowance Rebate System (a.k.a. 'cash-for-clunkers') program was a short-term boon for automakers participating in our market. Sales went up, inventory went down and nearly 700,000 vehicles that would likely have otherwise ended up on used car lots were destroyed. And since the U.S. is essentially a free market where automakers around the globe are allowed to participate, Japanese and European automakers benefited from the program as well. In fact, Japanese automakers fared even better than their U.S. competitors, as Toyota, Honda and Nissan are said to have surpassed their market share with the program. A reported 319,000 of the 677,000 vehicles sold via cash-for-clunkers were from Japanese companies. But while the U.S. C4C program took place in a free market where everybody is able to participate, critics are complaining that the new Japanese program is anything but equal opportunity.

Japan is considered by many to be the world's most insular auto market, and its $3.7 billion government clunker program makes U.S. autos ineligible for government assistance. According to The Detroit News, the program, which the Japanese government is using to spur sales (which are down 17 percent versus 2008 levels), provides cash rebates of up to $2,830 for customers who turn in vehicles 13 years or older. Car buyers who don't turn in a vehicle can still get over $1,100 toward the purchase of a new vehicle. An estimated 87 percent of all Japanese vehicles are eligible for the program, while zero vehicles from General Motors, Ford and Chrysler will be eligible.

The DetNews is reporting that Motown automakers have written a letter to the Deputy U.S. Trade Representative calling for action on a matter that was called "another example of Japan continuing efforts to discriminate against imported vehicles." Carol Guthry of the U.S. Trade Representative told the newspaper that the government is working to resolve the issue, adding "our position remains that changes are necessary to give U.S. vehicles greater opportunity to qualify under Japan's program."

While we're not exactly import/export experts and we don't have any experience with foreign relations, we're thinking it's about time Japan treated foreign automakers in the Land of the Rising Sun with the same level of equality that its automakers receive elsewhere in the world. What do you think?
 
It is kind of unfair. Our CFC program netted Japan some huge sales numbers. It is kind of a slap in the face that they don't extend us the same courtesy.

That is also assuming that we're sending products over there that are worth buying, which may or may not be the case.
 
How many 'Japanese' cars are made in the U.S.?
How many US cars are made in Japan? (my guess? probably not many, if any)

They're bringing jobs and money into the US. How many jobs are the Big Three bringing to Japan? I wouldn't call it unfair.
 
how many 'japanese' cars are made in the u.s.?
How many us cars are made in japan? (my guess? Probably not many, if any)

they're bringing jobs and money into the us. How many jobs are the big three bringing to japan? I wouldn't call it unfair.
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They say US cars are not eligible, but they don't say why. They make it sound like it is because they are imported, but it could be for different reasons.

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It is not just because they are imported, their fuel efficiency is not certified since they sell so little cars.

"Under those Japanese import rules, low-volume models don't need their fuel economy certified by the Japanese government. Japanese officials have said their clunkers program excluded uncertified models because it was designed to boost demand for more efficient models."
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American cars sold in Japan

General Motors
Cadillac CTS, STS, SRX, DTS, and V-series
Chevy Camaro, Corvette, and Trailblazer (why)
Hummer H3
Saab 9-3 and 9-5
Ford
Escape, Explorer, Sport Trac, and Mustang
Lincoln MKX
Chrysler
PT Cruiser, Grand Voyager, and 300c
Jeep
Patriot, Cherokee, Grand Cherokee, and Wrangler
Dodge
Caliber, JC (Journey), Nitro, Avenger, and Charger
 
oh boo hoo hoo... someone isn't being nice, so I'm going to write a letter to the government.


None of those cars listed by mikey seem to fit, at all, the needs of people living in Japan.
 
I don't think sold in Japan is the question, as much as made in Japan
 
That is also assuming that we're sending products over there that are worth buying, which may or may not be the case.

American cars sold in Japan

General Motors
Cadillac CTS, STS, SRX, DTS, and V-series
Chevy Camaro, Corvette, and Trailblazer (why)
Hummer H3
Saab 9-3 and 9-5
Ford
Escape, Explorer, Sport Trac, and Mustang
Lincoln MKX
Chrysler
PT Cruiser, Grand Voyager, and 300c
Jeep
Patriot, Cherokee, Grand Cherokee, and Wrangler
Dodge
Caliber, JC (Journey), Nitro, Avenger, and Charger


Outside of the Mustang, CTS, and Corvette, there isn't anything on that list worth buying. Especially not in Japan. And even the three I mentioned don't really work well in Japan either.
 
well we can say that it is somewhat unfair... at least offer it to some cars... i agree that US made cars that are being shipped to japan arent that great, well i kinda like the previous gen 9-5, but at least offer the C4C to someone who wants to buy something like a mustang or a camaro...
 
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