boostdprotegelx said:
when you say a lot...what do you mean? Cuz i just bought Philly ORanges built motor/turbo kit, will i be able to go faster then my stock motor setup which tops out(due to limited power) at 137mph? Im very interested..also, i will be buying the custom gear sets and stuff..but i think you are pretty good w/ cars, so, with that being said, say i wanted to run 600whp, aside from uprading the turbo/fuel rail/injectors, what would i need to do to the motor/tranny to sustain that kinda power? And when you build the bottom end, what do you do when you build the top end? like what parts?
I'm running around 300 at the ground and I can push over 140 without issue... but I have no place or desire to test how much 300 can get me to, not to mention the heat and other issues that become a problem sustaining that kind of run. The biggest problem you will probalby start to face outside of the heat and stress on the motor (even if it is producing the power you need) is aerodynamics... and no wing is going to really solve that... you'd have to work on body panning, redoing the stance of the car etc.. all things to get it to stay planted and not float at those kinds of speeds... I've been over 135 and the car is stable as hell... but I don't trust it would stay stable for too long past that... takes a lot of aero to get a car over 150 mph.. jsut look at the likes of the Saleen S7 and the Ford GT and others...
I don't see 600 as a realistic goal at this point. Keep in mind nobody has yet to show a credible dyno for anything over 400 horse.. Also, the few Puerto Rican cars we know about that are in the 500 range and getting close to 600 are running ridiculous boost levels, and don't last super long overall... (think 40+ psi in some cases.. plus nitrous). One of the big things you need to deal with as well when you get into that kind of power is the traction is simply not there.. I peel racing slicks in 3rd gear at this point... and that is me at 300 horse with a heavily built motor... We don't know what will all brake and have issues as power goes up to those levels... but budget roughly 40K and you should be able to get there... you'll need at the least:
-Entire new custom suspension and axles to accomdate considerably larger tires
-Redone fenders and bodywork to accomodate suspension
-Full worked and internall polished block
-Hardended crank
-Bearings that don't exist yet... but Toga's may do for now
-Gas Nitride rings
-Oliver rods, possibly custom titanium rods (no one knows HOW strong the Oliver's are).
-CP Pistons
-Full custom transmission
-Dual 255lph fuel pump
-All new fuel lines
- JandS Safeguard system
- Standalone capable of reading 45 psi (Microtech does offer one that I can get you).
- Upgraded individual coil spark ignition system (Microtech makes one as well... Bosch coils)
- Dual 550 to dual 720cc fuel rails
- Custom ground cams
- Custom sheet metal intake manifold (I'm working on it right now)
- Probably want to upgrade brakes at some point here..
- Roughly $800 in instrumentation minimum for monitoring engine health (water and oil temp, intake temp, oil pressure, EGT, wideband, JandS knock monitor, transmission temperature etc).
-Full worked head and exhaust manifold and exhaust system
-Ferrea SuperAlloy valves (I can get them for you as well.. roughly 55 bucks a valve)
- Potentially a custom reinforced girdle for the motor bottom (we don't know if it is necessary yet or not... no-one has gotten high enough to know).
- Massive clutch (Spec Stage 3+ disc with at least 50% to 75% over plate)
- Clutch could require alterations to mains due to the extra force....
- New Radiator and cooling system
- Modified thermostat
- Dual Oil Cooling System
- New engine Mounts
And probably more I'm forgetting.. but that list is the BASE set you'll need to do this.