was juat a joke, was being sarcastic. I am a VW guy at heart and think that VWs and Audis are in a league of their own when it comes to style. that was all that I meant. BTW love any kit that Ottenger produces. They have some sweet stuff for the Corrado. Have you seen the Ottenger Jettas that you can buy with full waranty, I would have bought one except when I went to look at them they wanted like $30k and wouldn't budge. They were a little pissed though when I cam back the same day in my new P5.