[DEFUNCT] The College-Budget P5

I put seafoam in a couple days ago with my oil change, I try to do it every other time. But it's good stuff, I personally have never had any problems with it and I've used it in old trucks, new cars, even my grandpa's 68 vette. It works really well in oil or gas
 
I was talking to my neighbor and he said back in the day, he used some sort of detergent in an old pickup truck.

He cleaned the gunk out but then his engine sprung leaks everywhere.

It was the gunk clogging the seals that was providing the seal.
He washed out the gunk and they started leaking.
 
She's almost ready for installation, lads!

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Must say though, I wasn't so pleased with the mounting points/fins on the shroud. Lots of them were somewhat bent or in funky positions, so I had to carefully get everything back into place.

Here were the lower tabs on both the radiator and fan shroud before returning them to their original position:

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All I have to do now is figure out the pigtail situation. Not sure if I can just cram the connector pieces inside the pigtails, or if I have to solder them in place.

Stormyori sent me in the right direction; at this point I'm collecting input, advice, and information that I can find.
 
He cleaned the gunk out but then his engine sprung leaks everywhere.

It was the gunk clogging the seals that was providing the seal.
He washed out the gunk and they started leaking.

That's what I fear the most in regards to using Seafoam, that somehow, cleaning out my car's system might reveal broken seals that were held in place with gunk.

Maybe it won't happen, but still, it concerns me a bit.
 
Ready to Race!

Yeah booyyy, got everything installed on time and correctly!

Very impressed with how the thing looks and sounds. When that fan kicks on, it's almost ghostly sounding. Quite a difference from the factory fan, which sounds like a desk fan.

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Video rotating around the setup

Messaging Stormyori in regards to pigtails/soldering/crimping definitely sent me in the right direction. I knew I had to cut some wires eventually, but man I didn't want to cut the wires of the fan shroud. They were already crimped nicely onto their own male/female bullet connectors, so I decided that I should instead snip off the female connectors on my own car. That way, I can grab some bullet connectors of my own (rated at 14 gauge, I think) and create my own crimped connections. There's no way a stock system will fit on this car without some re-soldering of the old pigtails now, but I'm not sure why I'd have to downgrade.

Broke out the old electronics box...

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...and connected everything up!

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Only piece that was beneath my expectations was the OBX silicone radiator hose. Both tubes they sent me were wrong lengths, with one being the completely wrong shape. Was unfortunate, but at least one was usable. Had to trim it down to make it fit, though.

And thankfully yes, the set up indeed works. No overheating, no weird temperature fluctuation, and no leaks. I simply filled it up, bled the air, made sure it blew hot, and now, It's finally ready for what should be the ultimate racing event (for me thus far)!

Can't wait to post some updates over the results for the next two days. Going to be sick. Protege5 represent!
 
Nice. No fitment issues on the radiator and shroud?
One fan shroud tab up top did not line up correctly; everything else lined up correctly and slid right in. It sits nicely in my engine bay with no issies aside from that one tab. Might have to drill it out to get that tab fastened, but all other mount points hold it in place well.

It's holding up very well, especially for how frequent I'm running it!
 
Day 1 -- Good times, good vibes

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That was an absolute blast! Nothing like racing for 8 hours on and off, head to head.

Competition on the first day was a little smaller than I thought. In my class, there were at first three of us total. Looks like it was a good old fashion Mazda vs Honda showdown! (Picture 1)

As usual, they were really friendly, and we had good talk and even better bouts. I lost two and won one; given how they're ahead of me in ranks, I felt amazing.

Eventually, another Integra showed up, and unexpectedley, a Ford Fusion. The Integra is the one I went on to beat, but that Fusion whooped me so hard! It was amazing what he could fo with it.

Later, I began to challenge othet drivers outside my class. I wanted to see the performance of the new Civic SI, so we went head-to-head. I managed to snag a victory! Second one of the day.

I'll be able to upload a bit more content once I get home. Damn this is great.

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That's what I fear the most in regards to using Seafoam, that somehow, cleaning out my car's system might reveal broken seals that were held in place with gunk.

Maybe it won't happen, but still, it concerns me a bit.

That was a long time ago and the truck was really old at the time as well.
I don't think you've really got anything to worry about.
A lot of guys here on the forum have used it with no problems.
If it does start to leak a bit, you could put some high mileage oil in your car. It's got seal softeners the help reseal any leaks.

I think it's worth the small gamble considering the cost of seized oil rings.
 
Part 2: The Day that Counted

With all the racing on the first day concluded, I pulled off to the camping area and set up my "makeshift bed".

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I was hanging out with the Honda guys, since they were awfully cool and interesting. I learned why my competition was so difficult after talking with them; they had "racing beaters". There was no carpet, no interior panels, no carpet...just the seats, the wheel, the dash, and the shifter. I was going up against Civics and Integras on a diet that had some interesting mods on them. The Civic was GSR swapped, and the Integra had a shorter gear ratio due to a special transmission. I'm mostly stock, so of course it made sense that I had a tough time keeping up.

One thing that fascinated me though was that when I launched my car alongside them during the double cross, I could more or less keep up with them! Seems like I have very similar acceleration in the lower gears thanks to the P5's lower-end grunt, but wasn't able to see what happened at higher speeds. Yet, I was at a large disadvantage in regards to handling, which accounted for how I got gapped. I had a longer wheelbase, more weight, and stock suspension; quite the contrast to the mods they put on their cars. I'd imagine that as soon as I get that VTCS removal + MP3 ECU done sometime, I'll be at least able to make up time in the straights.

After a lot of hanging out, drinking, and delicious burgers, night came upon us.

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I, uh...don't recommend sleeping in the back of your P5 with the rear seats folded all the way forward. that wasn't a comfy night, as there was a little notch on the rear that hurts your back.

Morning came quick. Shoulders sore and spine misaligned, I was ready to tackle the next racing day.

I lined up my car at the staging grid...

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...and walked the track

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That Neon and the ZX2 Escort in the image above are absolutely no joke whatsoever. Those guys dominate the competition, and are regularly on the podium! Can't wait until I can be that competitive.

Heats came by one by one, and FB had many more people show up. Had quite a few Integras, Civics, a Toyota Camry with a bespoke manual transmission swap, a CRX, and a Ford Fusion (that spanked a lot of folks on all seasons!)

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Overall, I didn't do as well as I normally would've. I placed 22nd or 23rd out of 26 or 27, but had a blast. Radiator worked like a charm. Only problem is that I'm beginning to have a lower opinion of the OBX shifter I installed. I didn't realize that the allen key bolts in the adjusting mechanism were so easy to strip, and have loosened severely; the shifter turned into a long-throw shifter during the event. If it wasn't super long, it was scraping the bottom of my heat shield! Damn thing. Looks like I may have wasted some cash by being stupid, lads. At least I kinda-sorta re-tightened it, but it's bangs on the heatshield.

When I arrived home, I learned that my Blox knob arrived while I was gone. I coupled it with my somewhat ghetto DIY shifter boot (cuz broke lol); that really changed the dynamics of shifting. Felt a heck of a lot easier, really, but also reduced the notchy feeling of the short-throw. The worst part was, I STILL didn't get rid of the rpm-dependent buzzing!! It only got quieter, but it's still there. At this point, I'm convinced it's the shifter. I do know that the Bronzeoil bushings do increase vibration a little, but that shifter's been nothing but trouble. Might have to either go back to stock or save up for a B&M or TWM shifter in the future.

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Time Attack #4: Photos

There one particular guy that shows up to the events to take photos, and man he does a good job. Check these bad boys out:

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This particular image bugs me a bit:

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Wishful thinking says that was tire smoke, but perhaps it's burning oil.

Guess I got to try some of that seafoam stuff sometime.
 
Wishful thinking says that was tire smoke, but perhaps it's burning oil.

Guess I got to try some of that seafoam stuff sometime.

That's coming out your tailpipe dude !!!..

You don't want this!!...



You could try ATF or diesel fuel if you're feeling desperate !!??..
 
Some guys completely fog out their entire neighborhoods when they start their car.
You're nowhere near that and Seafoam is "gentle" compared to ATF or diesel fuel.

But don't put it off,.. You've probably still got drainage through your oil drain holes so the seafoam can travel though them and clean them up..
( my guess anyway.. my car's a good example but I'm not pulling a piston out to try to prove it.)

Put your first half can in the oil and drain it about 100 miles later, then put more in next time and keep a really close eye on your dipstick.

When it looks black dump it again and start over.
Do this until your oil runs clean then put it in with your new oil every oil change.

Use cheap Walmart engine oil until your oil runs clean anyway... It'll save you some money.
 
Alright then, I'll have to get serious about this.

Luckily, I have a can of seafoam from ages ago (back when I had the Suzuki), so I'll start treating it soon. Guess I better go stock up on filters too...

Yikes, how harrowing. This weekend, I'll begin the treatment process. Here's hoping nothing serious gets unclogged and nukes my engine!
 
Alright then, I'll have to get serious about this.

Luckily, I have a can of seafoam from ages ago (back when I had the Suzuki), so I'll start treating it soon. Guess I better go stock up on filters too...

Yikes, how harrowing. This weekend, I'll begin the treatment process. Here's hoping nothing serious gets unclogged and nukes my engine!

I don't know about racing... You could release a big ole blood clot and give your car a stroke or heart attack.

Make sure your oil isn't getting "thick"... That's too much blood pressure... Your car could have an aneurysm.
 
I don't know about racing... You could release a big ole blood clot and give your car a stroke or heart attack.

Jesus that doesn't make me feel good about doing this lol. I do indeed change my oil regularly (every 3k miles; screw what everyone else says about changing it every 10k miles), and I've never noticed my oil getting thick or rubbery. Always a standard consistency, but definitely dark/black when I drain it.

Should I expect it not to darken as much/anymore once I begin this treatment?
 
Should I expect it not to darken as much/anymore once I begin this treatment?

No. It will get dark really fast once the Seafoam starts dissolving the sludge and liquefying it.

Once everything is dissolved (including hopefully the carbonized oil ring stuff) it will run clearer.

My dipstick barely changes color now after dissolving everything.
 
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