Super Matty P said:
yup peak horsepower number is what it's all about. reliability, ease of installation, ease of tune, driveability, features, cost, upgradeablility, options...none of that is important.
I want to have your child Nick....you're my hero.
So here you are saying driveability and reliability is important, but in the N/A thread on the MPi you said it aint s*** without dyno's, Can you make up your mind.
PR5Matt--I had the SMT-6 in my car when MPI first came out with a turbo setup and piggyback. It was a pain in the ass and didn't work for s***. You couldn't advance timing or get a reliable tune because it used the sensors wrong and wouldn't work consistantly. I had nothing but problems working with on the unit with Nick. So he went to PP and had them make a special box with different HW and also made different SW to talk to the MPI box so it would work. Nick came up with this setup and had PP modify it for him only. The SMT-6 doesn't work for s*** on our cars and if you got one from Bob, you would have those issues too. Try the SMT-6 if you want, but you will be wasting your money. Also, go ahead and try to load the MPI SW in the SMT-6 if you think it's the same.
All of these B.S. threads on how people are having issues with it has nothing to do with the unit. It has to do with their cars, they way they wired it, bad parts on the car already and shity computers. The unit does not lock up or lose settings if you have a decent laptop. You can get a perfect tune if your car has no previous issues. It's all in how you wire it up and follow instructions. Name a person who had issues and you will see other issues that they still have.
I had mine tuned so well that my car ran like STOCK. I know this because I am helping Nick with a different setup and I'm not controlling the stock injectors for now. My car drives NO DIFFERENT now, then how it did when I controlled the stock injectors. I listen and do what's supposed to be done. I make sure I don't have any other issues with my car and I have a good laptop.
Super Matty P said:
wiring issue's aside what about the problems with tuning? I'm friends with Captain KRM and several others here and they have all expressed problems with the tuning. It's difficult to tune, it loses the maps randomly, compatibility issues. I'm not basing on this on first hand knowledge of course just what the customers are saying. I looked around, did my homework and chose the Haltech. I don't need additonal injectors with my unit but should I need more fuel I just use larger injectors and the Haltech has NO issue dealing with it. Stock Fuel system is plenty fine for 250whp and thats about as far as I'd ever want to push the stock block. When I swapped my forged motor in (wagner block) I'll be sure to crank it all the way up to get some peak numbers. However, if my tiny bd-600 doesn't break 300whp All I have to do is use a BD-11A or Bd-12 and drop it back down to 6-9psi. The blower I'm using is powerdyne's "baby blower" for entry level boost.
I think the AFR's are going to be much nicer on my unit than almost any other turbo unit (aside form hiboost for obvious reasons!)
The Haltech does seem like a good unit. But when it has to fire the injectors in batch, instead of sequential, I don't care for it. You don't NEED xtra injectors with the MPI, it's recommended for higher boost levels. I have yet to hear of a car running well with larger injectors in the stock location. Someone who lives in a place that get's the full range of climates and stuff. People "say" it runs good, but does it run like stock?
I'm tired of people talking s*** about something they no nothing of. And also people saying s*** doesn't work because THEY can't figure it out, have other issues, don't check things right or install something wrong or BACKWARDS!!!
boostisgood said:
My 0.02. If the MPI is the "most used" Piggy on this forum, then you would think it would have had all the bugs worked out from all the input from the users. (Just a general statement, not bashing at all. Dont flame, just a general statement)
There are no "bugs" with it, just with some of the users. Nick try's to come up with new things people ask for, but they can't use it so it's called a "bug". It does everything it's supposed to do. People complained that they didn't like how agressive the TM came on to supply extra fuel through the stockers, so Nick chanegd it. The reason he even came up with that is because people didn't want the extra cost of injectors. So now, to run more boost, you need xtra injectors because of that. You only hear from the same few people about how it doesn't work, so you only focus on them. What about all of the others who don't have issue? Do you think Sony as 100% customer satisfaction? Some people don't get it.
To get a unit "pre-mapped" is s***. No 2 cars are the same and you will just be getting a bad tune. Nick can give you a map already done so you can drive around. But to get the most out of it, you need to tune it for YOUR application. After all, isn't that what's it's about, getting YOUR car to run better?