Being the "Creator" of this thread, I can't help but be responsible for all the BS and flaming going on here. Obviously this has been blown completely out of proportion! I am simply tinkering with the idea that the MP3 engine has been over-rated by Mazda. Apparently some people have their numbers crossed... Mazda claims and lists the 2.0L having 140HP. Now this, we know, is at crank. The car, pre-production was listed at 150HP @crank... back when it was known as the MPS Protege. The only difference between that and production, header design and an intake, both scratched because of noise restrictions and emissions (This info, by the way, from the Racing Beat web site). Now what I am arguing is that stock, given the limited amount of people who have dyno tested their cars, is about 108-109 HP at the wheels. That is about a 22% loss from crank power. I don't care what some of you say, I have talked to people who have been around cars all their lives, and for a FWD car, that is preposterous! Forget about what my dyno results were... my investigation is focused on stock power. Mazda kicks ass for having the balls to put out the MP3 into a Honda/Acura saturated market. I wouldn't change my decision to by the MP3 for nothing! What I propose is that between pre-production and production, Mazda may have miscalculated the power output of the MP3 a little, about 10-15HP, and if so, this could be grounds for compensation due to misrepresentation of product/false advertisement. Again, if I'm wrong, so be it! But if I'm right, well... enough said. Now please people let this dog lay! Until someone else has their car (stock) dynoed, or until a reputable magazine, like SCC, post some real numbers, all this bickering and arguing, and as of recently name calling and whinning, needs to stop. Enough already!!!
[ 01-22-2002: Message edited by: Coolhand ]