Lost power & went down a ditch.....

RuggedMazda · Sep 16, 2003

I need some advice here Last Fri. I was coming home & as I turned into my main drive way I lost power for a second & I also lost the power steering, my CEL came on for that second two.
The big thing is that I was surprised & scared by this & I lost control, so I hit the brakes hard & the rear swung out ( lots of dirt on the ground do to new houses being built). I tried to turn the wheel the other way to gain control, but I ended up hitting the side curb hard & I went over it & went down a ditch. I think in me getting scared & losing control I also hit the throttle which kept the momentum ( spell ? ) going & didnt let the car come to a stop before I hit the curb.
It was hard to get out, but somehow I was able to get out..
So now my steering wheel does not center, it stays to the right about one inch from the center point as I drive. My front bumper separated about half an inch from the hood line & it has two dents on the right & left corners & the front lip is bent back. Also my hood does not want to open on its own, it seems it does not want to pop open. My gas tank is hanging down & its creating a rattle as I drive.
Oh, the lost of power happened ones before, but I didnt get to take it in to get checked, but then it never happened again & I just forgot about it..
So the advice needed is what should I do, I mean yes I will take it to the dealer tomorrow, but will they not repair the car under warranty?
Can they try to put the blame on me?
I have know idea what went wrong with the lost power or power steering being lost, I cant figure out what the hell happened.
The suspension seems to still be tight & there is nothing I can visually see thats broken or loose. Tie ends are still in place, ball joints seem to not be loose, springs & dampers seem to work fine. Hopefully just alignment is needed.

Sorry for the long thread. But I would like to get some replys in before 11:00 tomorrow then I will bring the car in, I just want to be prepared as I talk to the service manager.

Midnight22 · Sep 16, 2003

dude, if u lost power, itz not ur fault, how the hell do u control a car that has lost everything that enables the driver to control it, they should replace everything and see what the hell caused the power out...

Heathen23 · Sep 16, 2003

I would call mazda immediately. This should not harm your insurance which it will if you claim it with them. You need to take this up with mazda IMHO. It would suck to get the shaft on your insurance because this problem has come up with a few other MSP owners.

RuggedMazda · Sep 16, 2003

Yeah, I know, but just hearing stories about these dealer
makes me think. Also, I do have a turbo timer installed & I have
brought the car in for warranty work before, they know I have it
& they can try to blame it on my timer....
Have any of you guys ever experience any power lost?

alexlitov · Sep 16, 2003

Take all the mods off before you bring it in. Call MNA ASAP. There is definately a problem with the car!! Be careful when you going to drive it next time. Also I believe the brakes lock up when the car is off...

t3ase · Sep 17, 2003

Allllllllrighty.

First of all, a turbo timer can not and will not turn your car off while the key is in and in the "On" position. I've tried this. My timer even turns off when I lower all of the windows at the same time due to an unknown problem with my electrical system.

Secondly, this is the third of forth incident where a member has posted that his/her car has died on them without warning. This is a MAJOR safety issue as you're well aware of now. Contact Mazda immediately.

RuggedMazda · Sep 17, 2003

Well, I hope everything goes smooth & thanks for the reply's.
I know that the timer was not the problem, but you guys know how the dealers can be. My dealer has so far been good about service, but I just wanted to see if you guys would think of any
foreseeable problems that I may have getting the this fixed when I go tomorrow....

Miques · Sep 17, 2003

I've actually had a situation similar to this last sunday. While coming off the freeway, my car just shut off. I had to make a pretty steep turn and the lost of power steering made me almost crash into a street light in the way. Luckily I was used to not having power steering becuase my rx did not have it either. I strong armed around the turn pushed the car back into nuetral and started it up while still rolling after the turn. butI dont want to imagine if that caught me off gaurd.

tonkabui · Sep 17, 2003

wtf? damn... sorry to hear about this. maybe the ecu fix will help assuage this problem. seems like more than a coincidence if more than a handful of members are experiencing this. especially considering there aren't that many speeds out there.

Vicocola · Sep 17, 2003

happened to me too except car stalled.. w/ normal driving.. not high rpm then clutch neutral... just normal driving.. only for at most 5 times.. then the car turned good itself somehow

gl hopefully it goes the same to u... btw did u get the pcm flash yet? it mite help

No.5 · Sep 17, 2003

t3ase said:
This is a MAJOR safety issue as you're well aware of now. Contact Mazda immediately.

Least you all forget that I started a Thread about 5 months ago about the Safety concern I had with my Speed stalling. Most didn't think it was a concern.

My car STALLS when driving since the 2nd month of ownership...and I have been waiting for the past 7 months for the friggen Flash.

I did contact Mazda Canada Customer relations and voiced my safety concerns, and to the dealership. For the most part, it's fallen on deaf ears. I still haven't received a call from Mazda Canada (since I was on the Priority 1 list to recieve the first Flash in Canada), nor have I received a call from my Dealership; and the Flash is out.

Granted it's a first year car and things will go wrong; but Stalling at highway Speeds?

The way Mazda has treated me and my problems with the car, will make it the last Mazda I will ever own.

nomahh · Sep 17, 2003

I don't think it's flash related.

My car is in now having the flash done, and they're replacing a number of leaking vacuum hoses.

Bring it in!

phantom · Sep 17, 2003

that happened to me before... one time after 2 months of delivery. I was doing normal driving and making a slow left turn. it died on me at the middle of the turn and it totally freaked me out!

lucky the oncoming traffic wasn't too close, otherwise it is a bad crash! At first I though it is my fault, maybe I'd release the clutch too fast when shifting or something (without even notice...), so I didn't even think it is a mechnical failure of the car itself!

so now I heard so many of you had the same problem before. I better report to the dealer. but I already have the mods and stuff I wonder if they will even consider it is a mechnical failure.

anyone know if the flash thing will help?

I am so worried now, that it is a big safety issue it will definately kill one of us one day........

No.5 · Sep 17, 2003

phantom said:
anyone know if the flash thing will help?

Well.....I really hope so, or else I'm contacting a lawyer and Mazda will be buying this car back.

Needless to say it seems like you guys are starting to experience what I've been dealing with since day-one.

Keep in mind once this battle is complete, a permanent fix for the bushings is next....

(My replacement D's haven't even made it 5000 km's without starting to fail)

csman22 · Sep 17, 2003

The stalling/almost lost power has happend to me as well. I just got my MSP about 4 weeks ago and more than a few times, the rpm's dropped to the point where where the engine was about to cut off. while stopping at lights or the end off off ramps. It was at this time that I read about the "flash" issues on the boards

I've got the flash now and all seems to be working well but I'm still monitoring it.

I'm thinkning getting the idle RPM up from the factory setting of 700 RMP's to 800 just incase.

my 2 cents...but I don't kow much, so if I'm way off base with my suggestion, disregard

No.5 · Sep 17, 2003

csman22 said:
I've got the flash now and all seems to be working well but I'm still monitoring it.

Cool, sounds good - thanks for the update. Keep us posted if it starts acting up again.

FrigginGLI · Sep 17, 2003

This just keeps getting worse and worse. I'm glad I did not buy a car no matter how great it is , that stalls out when I'm driving. Many people seem to be affected and it would SCARE THE s*** OUT OF ME!

laptopheaven · Sep 17, 2003

t3ase said:
First of all, a turbo timer can not and will not turn your car off while the key is in and in the "On" position. I've tried this. My timer even turns off when I lower all of the windows at the same time due to an unknown problem with my electrical system.

I disagree. A improperly installed TT would do just this. If there is a loose connection in the TT harness, the car could loose the ignition signal for a short period of time (<1 second)., I would check to make sure the TT harness is securly connected before running off to the dealer and drying foul. This also will protect yourself if the dealer claims the TT causes the power cut.

Just my $0.02.

No.5 · Sep 17, 2003

Well...I'm a happy camper....

I'm booked for the Flash tomorrow!!!

Interesting thing though I'm not using my regular dealership, but another Mazda shop in town. Just goes to show you that in order to keep customers, you have to be a proactive dealership.

4001 · Sep 17, 2003

Ive had the stalling Issuse as well. I got the Car in Jan and had it stall on me atleast 3 times by Feb. I took it in and they just blew me off pretty much. Worst time it happened was when I was on the Highway doing about 50 coming up to a light and put it in netural to start braking, the damn thing just died... not too fun. Ive also noticed that my revs are starting to dip down really low again while sitting at a light and it will get close to dying on me. The only time I had a problem was in the Winter, as soon as it warmed up it just stopped. Now its starting to cool down here and it seems to be acting up again. It makes me think the cold weather has something to do with it. Either way Im not in the mood to have a car stall in winter weather while on the highway. Mazda might have a Black MSP on the lot before the new year if this isnt handled quickly

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