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    Quote Originally Posted by Avoidin Deer View Post
    Just to clarify (and I cannot find the facts right now), Mazda does not own 5% of Toyota stock. That would be $10B USD. Mazda's ownership stake in Toyota (as a % of shares outstanding) is way, way less that Toyota's stake in Mazda. I wish I could recall where I saw the specifics...
    My mistake. Toyota owns 5.05% and Mazda owns 0.25%.

    https://insidemazda.mazdausa.com/pre...ital-alliance/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Googleplex View Post
    My mistake. Toyota owns 5.05% and Mazda owns 0.25%.

    https://insidemazda.mazdausa.com/pre...ital-alliance/
    Cool.

    Thanks for the link!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruthrj View Post
    Youíre absolutely right about the different packages. I have an XLE Premium, which is an XLE with SofTex interior. But I have the weather package for heated steering wheel and seats. But I donít have the Entune Premium with JBL speakers, just plain radio. It made it confusing as hell to shop and price lol.

    The only perk to the gas version is you can get them for thousands below MSRP due to the availability and success of the hybrid versions. Canít negotiate those suckers down to invoice or less right now.
    Well, had a chance to sit in a RAV4 today. It's a no-go. The SE, sans moonroof would probably clear the head with enough room, but even then it's tight in there. I had to contort a bit to get in. It's too bad, the RAV4 is the kind of car I'd be looking for but if you can't fit, you can't fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dyingquail View Post
    Well, had a chance to sit in a RAV4 today. It's a no-go. The SE, sans moonroof would probably clear the head with enough room, but even then it's tight in there. I had to contort a bit to get in. It's too bad, the RAV4 is the kind of car I'd be looking for but if you can't fit, you can't fit.
    Hang on, all I keep hearing about is how the Rav4 has so much more space than the CX-5? : )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avoidin Deer View Post
    If we were ever happy, our economy would crash down around our ears.

    Dissatisfaction is what keeps us pulling our wallets out, over and over again.
    Yes but some of us are more reluctant than others, lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruthrj View Post
    But but but, itíll be faster than what weíve payed for!!! XD
    I wonder how consistent that 5.8 seconds is. Is that only while the plug-in battery power still has something in reserve? What happens when those 39 miles run out and it's in regular hybrid mode? Does it only run mid 7's at that point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcrout7992 View Post
    I wonder how consistent that 5.8 seconds is. Is that only while the plug-in battery power still has something in reserve? What happens when those 39 miles run out and it's in regular hybrid mode? Does it only run mid 7's at that point?
    I don't think it's been actually tested yet, it might just be a projection by Toyota. Even if Toyota claimed 5.8s, I'd want a third-party to test it to alleviate the potential manufacturer bias.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcrout7992 View Post
    I wonder how consistent that 5.8 seconds is. Is that only while the plug-in battery power still has something in reserve? What happens when those 39 miles run out and it's in regular hybrid mode? Does it only run mid 7's at that point?
    Yeah, that would be worse than the turbo not working when the Mazda gets cold, lol!

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    What do you think the fully loaded 2021 RAV4 Prime's MSRP will be? 302hp, 0-60 = 5.8, 39mi all electric range, Toyota reliability, 10 yr battery warranty, and basically all the amenities the Signature has to offer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcrout7992 View Post
    What do you think the fully loaded 2021 RAV4 Prime's MSRP will be? 302hp, 0-60 = 5.8, 39mi all electric range, Toyota reliability, 10 yr battery warranty, and basically all the amenities the Signature has to offer.
    I guess you haven't read the thread? Lots of speculation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcrout7992 View Post
    What do you think the fully loaded 2021 RAV4 Prime's MSRP will be? 302hp, 0-60 = 5.8, 39mi all electric range, Toyota reliability, 10 yr battery warranty, and basically all the amenities the Signature has to offer.
    I'm guessing $45K or so, but also qualifying for federal rebate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unobtanium View Post
    I'm guessing $45K or so, but also qualifying for federal rebate?
    Sounds about right. I'm thinking it will be in the low 40s, as Toyota can still take advantage of a full $4500 rebate (7500 requires larger battery). They'll also want to sell loaded versions to the early adopters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulson View Post
    Toyota is launching a 3 pronged attack on Mazda, Honda and Subaru with the RAV4:

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    Honda: Equivalent interior space. Better MPG with PHEV over standard CRV Hybrid. RAV4 offers likely better long term reliability due to no Turbo or cylinder deactivation.

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    I donít agree that the RAV4 has equivalent interior space to the CR-V. I donít know how Honda does it, but the interior of the CR-V seems bigger than every other compact to me even though the exterior dimensions arenít bigger. When I put my daughterís rear facing car seat (which is admittedly large) in the new RAV and sat in the seat in front of it, my knees were pressed into the dash hard, and I ruled it out immediately, but the same scenario in the CR-V left me a couple inches of leg room. In the end, I went with the CX-9 though as none of the compacts were quite big enough. Our stroller (also large) didnít easily fit in the cargo area of the Forester, and the CX-5 didnít have enough leg room in the 2nd row (didnít even get to the car seat or stroller tests). But the CR-V was the closest compact to satisfying my interior space requirements.
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    More and more, I'm liking this rav4 prime. I think I may well keep my cx5 GTR until the 2021 primes are a year or 3 old, and then upgrade to a CPO one. Since I have solar at my house, now, it really makes cents, as well as the enhanced performance and capabilities it offers with ever rising fuel costs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unobtanium View Post
    More and more, I'm liking this rav4 prime. I think I may well keep my cx5 GTR until the 2021 primes are a year or 3 old, and then upgrade to a CPO one. Since I have solar at my house, now, it really makes cents, as well as the enhanced performance and capabilities it offers with ever rising fuel costs.
    Check if you can get Toyota Prius Prime in your area first (Missouri? Arkansas? For some reason I always thought you live in Northern Arkansas or at least used to be there?) or you may be disappointed. A special AC wiring in your garage for faster charging is also required which would cost up to $2,000 in California, if your electrical meter and relay panel is big enough to handle the current (meaning not too old).

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