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    Finally got my winter tires installed on 17" wheels. The clearance with the front calipers is about 1/2" (3/8" under the weights). It's more than I had anticipated.
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    Ride is smooth and quiet. Not much noisier than the oem tires at low speed. I have yet to try them on the highway.

    I think they are more quiet than the Hakka R2 were on my previous car. Less of that whistling noise on dry and warm pavement

    Looking at my spare tire, it's a 190/90D16. So unless the wheel has a different shape than a regular one, it must be very tight on the front.

    Now I'm ready for winter. Let it snow. Let it snow. Let it snow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvainm View Post
    Finally got my winter tires installed on 17" wheels. The clearance with the front calipers is about 1/2" (3/8" under the weights). It's more than I had anticipated.



    Ride is smooth and quiet. Not much noisier than the oem tires at low speed. I have yet to try them on the highway.

    I think they are more quiet than the Hakka R2 were on my previous car. Less of that whistling noise on dry and warm pavement

    Looking at my spare tire, it's a 190/90D16. So unless the wheel has a different shape than a regular one, it must be very tight on the front.

    Now I'm ready for winter. Let it snow. Let it snow. Let it snow.
    You're not supposed to use the spare on the front.

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    Thanks, murky, this is a very good point. I wasn't aware of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kdaug View Post
    I thought that the rubber compound in the WS90 is the same as that in the old WS80's, (as well as in the current DM-V2), so, why would they reduce the number of sipes?
    No, this is a new compound.

    So far no complaints with the WS90s. Seem to be performing at least on-par with my WS80s I had last 2 years. I only really slipped on one uphill intersection from a stop, but I did there on the WS80s too.

    Yeah I wonder about the sipes as well, but so far no problems. I will see as time goes on, whenever we get more snow.
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    I contacted Bridgestone today to enquire as to any differences in performance between the new WS-90 and the DM-V2. He gave me a rundown on the changes incorporated into the new WS-90 but when I finally asked him, if he was about to buy a new set of Blizzak tires for a CX-5, which of these 2 models would he personally choose he unfortunately was non committal and would only say that they both were very comparable in performance and either would be a good choice. Not the answer I wanted, but I see from the performance information graphs on the Bridgestone website it would seem that the DM-V2 edges out the WS-90 in all categories. That helps me in making my decision. Too bad the new DM-V3 hasn't been released in North America as of yet.
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    Those of you who purchased a set of new tires, don't forget to claim your reward from the manufacturer. I did my claim online on the Bridgestone web site. About a week later I got confirmation that I'll be getting a 50$ prepaid card in 6 to 8 weeks.

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    Hello everyone

    I am about to purchase a standard 16" steel rims with 245/70/16 winter tires for a 2018 Grand touring, two questions;

    1- am I going to have brake fitment issues?
    2- will the oem lugs work with the typical steel rim? or do I need to buy a different set of lugs?

    Thanks to all who contributes to this awesome forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kdaug View Post
    I contacted Bridgestone today to enquire as to any differences in performance between the new WS-90 and the DM-V2. He gave me a rundown on the changes incorporated into the new WS-90 but when I finally asked him, if he was about to buy a new set of Blizzak tires for a CX-5, which of these 2 models would he personally choose he unfortunately was non committal and would only say that they both were very comparable in performance and either would be a good choice. Not the answer I wanted, but I see from the performance information graphs on the Bridgestone website it would seem that the DM-V2 edges out the WS-90 in all categories. That helps me in making my decision. Too bad the new DM-V3 hasn't been released in North America as of yet.
    I'll have to lookup the reviews/articles again, but the WS-90 definitely has some things better than the DM-V2 from what I read, though some trade-offs I imagine since not as many sipes.

    It snowed again this morning (rain last night), so it was pretty icy out. I had no problems at all on the ice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ColoradoDriver View Post
    I'll have to lookup the reviews/articles again, but the WS-90 definitely has some things better than the DM-V2 from what I read, though some trade-offs I imagine since not as many sipes.

    It snowed again this morning (rain last night), so it was pretty icy out. I had no problems at all on the ice.
    The Bridgestone links I was referring to were on their Canadian site but I am assuming the info is similar to the U.S. site. Here are the links I looked at.... about 1/3 of the way down the page click on "See More Tire Details" to see the 7 Performance Information bar graphs:

    https://www.bridgestonetire.ca/tire/blizzak-ws90/
    https://www.bridgestonetire.ca/tire/blizzak-dm-v2/

    Unless I'm missing something it sure looks like the DM-V2 is the outright winner, but just by a small margin, although I'm sure that anecdotal comments by owners of either of these tires may disagree with what Bridgestone is saying. Regardless I have to make up my mine by Wednesday as that is the day I'm booked in for a tire change!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kdaug View Post
    The Bridgestone links I was referring to were on their Canadian site but I am assuming the info is similar to the U.S. site. Here are the links I looked at.... about 1/3 of the way down the page click on "See More Tire Details" to see the 7 Performance Information bar graphs:

    https://www.bridgestonetire.ca/tire/blizzak-ws90/
    https://www.bridgestonetire.ca/tire/blizzak-dm-v2/

    Unless I'm missing something it sure looks like the DM-V2 is the outright winner, but just by a small margin, although I'm sure that anecdotal comments by owners of either of these tires may disagree with what Bridgestone is saying. Regardless I have to make up my mine by Wednesday as that is the day I'm booked in for a tire change!!
    I think I had read that the WS-90 has better directional grip than the WS-80 or DM-V2. But I think for straight up which is better, you're right. I figure the WS-90 had to sacrifice some performance to have better wear life, which appealed to me living in Colorado where we have lots of dry time (and warmer days) between snows. But 2 snow storms now, and a lot of ice yesterday, and they worked great, so I am happy. Since you are in Canada, I'd probably opt for the DM-V2's too.

    The problem I had with my WS-80s were that they were worn after 2 winters. Hoping these WS-90s can last at least 3. If not, I'll maybe opt for Michelin X-Ice next time.
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    We had 8"of snow last night. This morning, I got out of the snow bank, no problem. At a stop sign, there was an ice patch. I could stop but the abs came on. When cornering in heavy snow, the car understeered but I didn't loose control. Right after when I stepped on the gas, the rear swung sideways but I think it's more an awd issue than a tire issue (my previous suv would apply brakes on the outer wheels to stop oversteering). All in all, I think they compare with my Hakka R2 suv, which were good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColoradoDriver View Post
    I think I had read that the WS-90 has better directional grip than the WS-80 or DM-V2. But I think for straight up which is better, you're right. I figure the WS-90 had to sacrifice some performance to have better wear life, which appealed to me living in Colorado where we have lots of dry time (and warmer days) between snows. But 2 snow storms now, and a lot of ice yesterday, and they worked great, so I am happy. Since you are in Canada, I'd probably opt for the DM-V2's too.

    The problem I had with my WS-80s were that they were worn after 2 winters. Hoping these WS-90s can last at least 3. If not, I'll maybe opt for Michelin X-Ice next time.
    Well, I finally bit the bullet and chose the DM-V2. I liked the slightly better performance specs compared to the WS90. No testable amount of snow or ice yet, just a bit of slush. Still waiting for a good dump of snow to give them their first workout. Now, oddly enough these DM-V2's seem to turn easier on pavement then my OEM all season TOYO's. Or maybe I'm just imagining this.

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    That is to be expected; winter tires are made of a softer compound that retains grip and traction at lower temperature, but it suffers as far as tread longevity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faka View Post
    That is to be expected; winter tires are made of a softer compound that retains grip and traction at lower temperature, but it suffers as far as tread longevity.
    I got 5 years of wear from the WS70's I just replaced. If I can get that from my DM-V2's I'll be happy. It does help that I leave my winter tire change overs as late as possible, right up to the first snowfall, then get them off in early spring.

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