Mazda's 1st EV > EVs tech and politics > Tesla and QC/warranty > Paint issues > Guns and lawsuits. lol
'Murica.
I got bollocked for going off topic when we were talking emissions. At least it was car related but now we*re treated to adults playing at Dirty Harry from an EV thread. No wonder your kids are wiping towns out.
Bah! You're just jelly because your kids cant even legally carry a pocketknife.
Your kids carry guns and knives... It's not the Wild West any longer... Oh wait!... let the duelling banjos commence.
If or when Mazda gets an EV to the market it will be interesting to see what they do because of what they did with the diesel by putting a higher price on the CX-5D over the CX-5T. Which by the way I checked my area on Cargurus 2 weeks ago using a 50 mile radius for the CX-5D and 7 were listed. Checked again this morning and the same 7 are still there. Okay, back to the EV. I probably would not buy a Mazda EV and stick with a CX-5T in 2 years if gas prices are near the same as now.
Kind of like if I was down to wanting an Audi Q5 and I was choosing between and ICE version vs the e-tron that is upward of $77K I would go with the ICE. How much gas could you buy over the span of 10 years driving an average of 12,500 miles per year? I mean you get to a point where the cost offset from the e-tron price (~$1400 a month for 60 months with a loan) compared to the ICE version use comes out to be equal point somewhere at the 10 year mark of ownership doing just very rough math. But that is Audi and Tesla price tag is fairly hefty as well if you don't get the tax breaks and such. If you bought a Nissan Leaf it works out a bit better math wise if you can live with a car that looks like that. The coworker that bought the Tesla 3 is paying close to $1K a month on the loan and he had to get an electrician to setup his garage for charging the battery.
Hopefully Mazda will have it priced more reasonably if they bring one to the market.
When I think of these things it just makes considering a EV more difficult. And the environment claim for those who justify that angle of paying a whole lot more to get EV to save the environment, I work for one of the largest energy and environmental engineering companies in the world. Almost every energy sector we provide consulting for has environmental issues to correct, prevent or rehab. So that angle is not convincing to me personally when I know what is going on to keep the electricity, fuel and batteries generated.
Right now two of the largest mental hurdles for me is the price tag for a half decent looking EV that doesn't look like the Leaf and the driving range. The thought of having to divert from the route to a charging station and spend up to an hour charging would drive me insane.
Mazda BETTER be able to make it work as well as Hyundai.
https://www.hyundaiusa.com/kona-electric/index.aspx
Honestly? If that thing had 800mi range and AWD, I'd have bought it in a heartbeat over my CX5. That is literally all t hat's holding me back, is the short range of PEV's. Otherwise...free fuel? Hell yes! I burn $220/mo on gasoline alone. Also keep in mind PEV's don't need oil changes and a host of other things.
Exactly!While more range is clearly better, my biggest gripe would be with the time needed to charge up. Putting a level 2 charging station in my parking spot outside my condo, would be fairly costly I assume and would still require hours to fully charge. I commute about 100mi round trip to work, so 300mi range would allow me to charge every other day, easily. I'd also wonder how an EV with supposed 300mi of range would change in the dead of winter.
I'd rather carry a weapon than simply hope I was a more capable person than my opponent when someone decides to break into my house/rob me/whatever. I'm a decent size lad with a sense of how to use it, but there are always bigger and meaner. Besides, ultimately, I don't like my government telling me I have the right to defend myself with/only own certain things (yes they still do, sadly, but I'll take the best options I can get). That's why we cut that cord with yours
Serious question? You got knives at home, right? Like, 6" knife for slicing veggies, etc? It's hard to tell WHAT is true with the media...
While more range is clearly better, my biggest gripe would be with the time needed to charge up. Putting a level 2 charging station in my parking spot outside my condo, would be fairly costly I assume and would still require hours to fully charge. I commute about 100mi round trip to work, so 300mi range would allow me to charge every other day, easily. I'd also wonder how an EV with supposed 300mi of range would change in the dead of winter.
Exactly!
And EV is NOT a *Zero-Emission* vehicle!
Electricity supply always requires certain amount of base power generation which is stable. You need base power generation 24/7 with constant electricity supply. Solar and wind power generation CAN NOT fully replace base power generation by coal, natural gas, oil, and nuclear power plants. Solar and wind power generations are simply unstable and can't be used for base power generation. if you think we can store the extra electricity generated by solar and wind and use them at off hours when there's no sun and wind, the cost is astronomical!Very few manufactured things are zero emission but they are getting better with solar power and wind farms. They*ll get EV*s far better than combustion engines one day.
Electricity supply always requires certain amount of base power generation which is stable. You need base power generation 24/7 with constant electricity supply. Solar and wind power generation CAN NOT fully replace base power generation by coal, natural gas, oil, and nuclear power plants. Solar and wind power generations are simply unstable and can't be used for base power generation. if you think we can store the extra electricity generated by solar and wind and use them at off hours when there's no sun and wind, the cost is astronomical!
And I haven't discuss environmental impacts of solar panels and wind turbines. Both also require large land use which is threatening many agricultural productions.
Electricity supply always requires certain amount of base power generation which is stable. You need base power generation 24/7 with constant electricity supply. Solar and wind power generation CAN NOT fully replace base power generation by coal, natural gas, oil, and nuclear power plants. Solar and wind power generations are simply unstable and can't be used for base power generation. if you think we can store the extra electricity generated by solar and wind and use them at off hours when there's no sun and wind, the cost is astronomical!
And I haven't discuss environmental impacts of solar panels and wind turbines. Both also require large land use which is threatening many agricultural productions.