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    Quote Originally Posted by CX-5um View Post
    Reminds me of my uncle whom had a yellow mid 90's Chevy Beretta.
    It truly is an ugly color for a car, unless it's a muscle car, in which case any color is cool.

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    Pretty sure every car company has "special" colors now. In fact I think Volvo only offers 2 colors without an upcharge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7eregrine View Post
    Pretty sure every car company has "special" colors now. In fact I think Volvo only offers 2 colors without an upcharge.
    I did a cursory look at the CR-V "build your own" page after I looked at the RAV-4 page. For that model Honda, there are no up-charge colors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avoidin Deer View Post
    I did a cursory look at the CR-V "build your own" page after I looked at the RAV-4 page. For that model Honda, there are no up-charge colors.
    Yeah but you get an ugly ass CR-V in exchange.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CX-5um View Post
    Reminds me of my uncle whom had a yellow mid 90's Chevy Beretta.
    LOL, my buddy had the Lumina, 93-94, and bought another one in 2003 with the Monte Carlo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avoidin Deer View Post
    The fact is that corporate America has the same mentality.

    I managed internal budgets with my last employer (Booz Allen) and we always spent every dime. In our defense, we did not waste the money...we put it towards investing in technology and business management tools that we could not otherwise get funding for.

    Everyone does it.

    The other side to this coin is what would happen with the economy and unemployment if we suddenly became responsible and efficient? I find THAT thought to be sobering.
    As far as corporate America is concerned, I don’t find that behavior as irritating because they’re only eating into their own profits and spending the extra on R&D or facilities is a decent investment. The USG, however, is throwing away taxpayer money on things with far worse upside. Hence my proposal for excess funds at the end of the year to roll into to real investments, like education.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmhumr View Post
    As far as corporate America is concerned, I don*t find that behavior as irritating because they*re only eating into their own profits and spending the extra on R&D or facilities is a decent investment. The USG, however, is throwing away taxpayer money on things with far worse upside. Hence my proposal for excess funds at the end of the year to roll into to real investments, like education.
    Well said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ColoradoDriver View Post
    Yeah but you get an ugly ass CR-V in exchange.
    And you're gonna eat up all the paint savings paying for extra oil changes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avoidin Deer View Post
    And you're gonna eat up all the paint savings paying for extra oil changes.
    Crap. Beat me to it. Well done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzzman12 View Post
    Crap. Beat me to it. Well done.
    It's only funny 'cause we don't drive a Honda.

    I sure dodged a bullet when I bought my CX-5.
    The CR-V was on the top of my list...it's a Honda, for goodness sake!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avoidin Deer View Post
    It's only funny 'cause we don't drive a Honda.

    I sure dodged a bullet when I bought my CX-5.
    The CR-V was on the top of my list...it's a Honda, for goodness sake!
    My brother in law wasn't so lucky. He bought one last year and dumped it 8 months later. Long story. Bad oil dilution and worse dealer (non) support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzzman12 View Post
    My brother in law wasn't so lucky. He bought one last year and dumped it 8 months later. Long story. Bad oil dilution and worse dealer (non) support.
    I feel so bad for people. I read some of the owner's forums and hear of oil changes every 1,000 miles.

    What is insane is that only the guys who check/change their own oil are gonna know, unless the person who changes their oil (usually drained by the same guy who sweeps the shop floor) notices the loss of viscosity/smell of gas and says something.

    Imagine all those cars with all those miles of reduced-to-no lubrication.
    The whole thing is infuriating, for the obvious reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avoidin Deer View Post
    I feel so bad for people.
    What is insane is that only the guys who check/change their own oil are gonna know,
    Yup. I'm guessing that upwards of 90% of CR-V owners have no idea what's going on or are aware of the issue.
    Soccer moms and dads blissfully driving around, never checking the oil and only relying on the maintenance scheduler in the car to remind them to go for an oil change.
    If there is gas in the oil, the grunt doing the oil change at the dealership is sure as heck not going to mention it or report it.
    In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Honda has sent down a decree to all dealerships not to mention the problem unless forced to admit it by a persistent customer.
    Deny deny deny.
    Most CR-V buyers are not car people. They bought them as an appliance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzzman12 View Post
    Most CR-V buyers are not car people. They bought them as an appliance.
    My research last Fall left me wary of Direct Inject engines in general, but what are you gonna do about that? Even Mazda issued a TSB about it in 2017, which concluded
    Engine oil dilution by fuel is a common phenomenon for gasoline engines that occurs when the vehicle is driven in specific conditions, and not a problem. There is no problem as long as extraordinary short trips are not taken.
    You research as best you can and hope for the best. Or I could have had the body work done on my 1990 Volvo and saved the $$$$. 1,500 miles away from turning 200,000 and Bambi suicided on it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzzman12 View Post
    Yup. I'm guessing that upwards of 90% of CR-V owners have no idea what's going on or are aware of the issue.
    Soccer moms and dads blissfully driving around, never checking the oil and only relying on the maintenance scheduler in the car to remind them to go for an oil change.
    If there is gas in the oil, the grunt doing the oil change at the dealership is sure as heck not going to mention it or report it.
    In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Honda has sent down a decree to all dealerships not to mention the problem unless forced to admit it by a persistent customer.
    Deny deny deny.
    Most CR-V buyers are not car people. They bought them as an appliance.

    How is the OD issue in the CRV any different then the cylinder deactivation feature in the CX-5 causing engine parts to literally fall out of their place?

    https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/m...vation-issues/
    https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...5-and-6-models

    Anyway, I highly doubt a 'software update' going to fix this. Cylinder deactivation is just something auto companies have a hard time getting right. It baffles me that Mazda included this for a whopping 1 MPG extra. No chance I EVER get any vehicle with cylinder deactivation.

    It's decisions like these where Mazda shoots itself in the foot. They include a feature that no one asked for in a SUV all to gain an 1 extra MPG and now they have to recall 250k+ vehicles to perform a software update. An update which will probably just mask the problem temporarily but not fix it.
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