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    I gave up applying waxes many years ago. It takes me about 20 minutes (every week) using 3D waterless spray that cleans and protects. 4 gallon containers are a bit over $100 but last quite a while when a vehicle uses only 4 oz of the stuff. Of course, if the car is filthy from driving on wet roads, a wash is necessary but from April until November, there is virtually no rain in this area, so tedious car washes are rarely necessary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by concept View Post
    I gave up applying waxes many years ago. It takes me about 20 minutes (every week) using 3D waterless spray that cleans and protects. 4 gallon containers are a bit over $100 but last quite a while when a vehicle uses only 4 oz of the stuff. Of course, if the car is filthy from driving on wet roads, a wash is necessary but from April until November, there is virtually no rain in this area, so tedious car washes are rarely necessary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avoidin Deer View Post
    Just to point out the obvious...

    >A 16 oz. container of Griot's cost $20-$25.
    >Ceramic coatings are $600 (really cheap) to $1,800 and up, including prep.
    >>That's 30-90+ bottles of Griot's (unadjusted for your labor). Ceramics BETTER be better!

    I'm still trying to decide if I want to do film, coatings or standard wax. (Someone else here mentioned Produxa.)
    In other words, $$$$$, $$$, or $.

    It was so much simpler when I was 18. A hose, one bucket (no grit guards, no microfiber), some Tide, a can of Simonize, and chrome polish. Lots and lots of chrome polish.
    I definitely would do film first.
    it's really worth the investment and peace of mind, knowing your car is protected from road debris and certain chips.
    had it on my previous car for 5 years and fared very well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sm1ke View Post
    I would do the film as well. A mechanical barrier applied this early on (before any additional rock chips or scratches occur) would be my priority vs. a nano coating that basically just makes the car easier to clean.

    I'm not sure where people are getting this idea that a ceramic coating provides extra protection from scratches, chips, etc. Maybe from the "ceramic" in the term? Anyway, generally speaking, a coating provides about the same level of protection as a wax does, the coating is just more durable. Washing with Dawn wouldn't prove anything as it might be strong enough to remove waxes and coatings, so a test as performed in the videos previously posted is much more realistic. Those videos give you an idea of real world durability as compared to other waxes and coatings exposed to the same environment/wash cycle.

    Again, if I had the money for it, I'd do a full PPF (with paint correction done beforehand) to get the best protection from the elements. Then, depending on how much more I wanted to spend, I'd buy a bottle of Meg's Quik Wax and use it as a drying aid after every 2nd or 3rd wash, or apply a wax every 4-6 months, or apply a coating myself every 2-3 years. I'd only be applying these things for the added hydrophobics to make the car easier to wash and keep clean.
    I gotta think that the ceramic coating industry has no real reason to correct misconceptions about the value of their product. I just searched on "Modesta ceramic coatings" and this was the very first result: "Ceramic Pro is an innovative nano-ceramic hydrophobic coating that protects your paint from road salt, bird droppings, wind damage, scratches, minor bumps and dings." Installer sites talk about hardness and thickness, then I guess human hyperbole does the rest. You have to really look for what's not said in order to clarify the true benefit.

    I agree that if money were no object, I would have a full body wrap.
    But if money were no object, I would own one of the cars you see on detailer websites that have a full body wrap!

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