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    This is the REALITY of what Motor Trend is doing.

    Motor Trend has to save face for making the 2018 Honda CRV the 2018 SUV Of The Year. MT has egg on its face for giving the award to an SUV that is now recalled and plagued with engine failures. An engine and SUV that could not be legally sold in China due to its massive engine failures.

    That is WHY Motor Trend gave a glancing shout out to the Honda CRV in the Mazda article. The magazine must do damage control and these subtleties is how they do it. There is a science behind it. It's not just random.

    I do agree when it comes to CVTs that Honda has the better one but it's STILL a CVT which sucks. I hate CVTs and even with the Honda, the CVT is still a lame CVT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lbear View Post
    This is the REALITY of what Motor Trend is doing.

    Motor Trend has to save face for making the 2018 Honda CRV the 2018 SUV Of The Year. MT has egg on its face for giving the award to an SUV that is now recalled and plagued with engine failures. An engine and SUV that could not be legally sold in China due to its massive engine failures.

    That is WHY Motor Trend gave a glancing shout out to the Honda CRV in the Mazda article. The magazine must do damage control and these subtleties is how they do it. There is a science behind it. It's not just random.

    I do agree when it comes to CVTs that Honda has the better one but it's STILL a CVT which sucks. I hate CVTs and even with the Honda, the CVT is still a lame CVT.
    A bit over-dramatic...but I guess that's your opinion

    Bottom line is...Mazda is finally getting some love (I think) from most professional reviewers and may as well be taking away potential customers from Honda, Toyota and others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by husker_soze View Post
    A bit over-dramatic...but I guess that's your opinion

    Bottom line is...Mazda is finally getting some love (I think) from most professional reviewers and may as well be taking away potential customers from Honda, Toyota and others.
    Would you feel it over dramatic had that been what pushed you to get a CRV? Say you liked the CX5 and CRV, but were an avid MT fan, and it pushed you to their "pick of the year"...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SignatureCX5 View Post
    The back up camera on my 2017 $60K Duramax sucks more when wet or dirty. I guess I just look at all these gizmos as simple convenience and it doesn't bother me to turn my head and look...besides I need to stretch Not sure how I survived without them my whole life ...LOL
    It's less about the driver. I think everyone knows, or knows of, a kid playing in the drive who got run over because of lack of a camera. Some things you cannot see, the results of which leave you with things you cannot unsee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unobtanium View Post
    Would you feel it over dramatic had that been what pushed you to get a CRV? Say you liked the CX5 and CRV, but were an avid MT fan, and it pushed you to their "pick of the year"...
    Unfortunately...I'm not one of those that base my purchase-making decisions based on an award. So I wouldn't feel "over dramatic", since its not likely that a "pick of the year" will sway my decision.

    Almost all buyers have that threshold/deal-breaker (e.g. features, power, cargo space, style, etc.) that will tip the scale in choosing between cars. I'm not saying I won't read the reviews and take them in consideration, but in the end, I'm the one making that choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unobtanium View Post
    It's less about the driver. I think everyone knows, or knows of, a kid playing in the drive who got run over because of lack of a camera. Some things you cannot see, the results of which leave you with things you cannot unsee.
    There was a.little sarcasm in my post. I wasn't saying they are not a viable safety feature but the shity backup camera in my Duramax and my CX-5 are more than sufficient to satisfy that need. But people find anything to complaint about. Dam things aren't meant for taking quality pictures.

    BTW, I do understand the safety of backup cameras as I have had them on my motorhomes and toy haulers since 1988. Totally a necessity behind a big rig in a campground where kids roam unattended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by husker_soze View Post
    Unfortunately...I'm not one of those that base my purchase-making decisions based on an award. So I wouldn't feel "over dramatic", since its not likely that a "pick of the year" will sway my decision.

    Almost all buyers have that threshold/deal-breaker (e.g. features, power, cargo space, style, etc.) that will tip the scale in choosing between cars. I'm not saying I won't read the reviews and take them in consideration, but in the end, I'm the one making that choice.
    I am. I used to be like you. "Who cares what some rag printed?!" So I bought a Jeep. because I liked everything about it (and still do prefer literally everything about it to my CX5), BUT! I ignored Consumer Reports...and just like they said, it fell apart. It was the best worst vehicle I've owned. So now, if it does poorly in CR, I could care less about anything else. I won't buy it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SignatureCX5 View Post
    There was a.little sarcasm in my post. I wasn't saying they are not a viable safety feature but the shity backup camera in my Duramax and my CX-5 are more than sufficient to satisfy that need. But people find anything to complaint about. Dam things aren't meant for taking quality pictures.

    BTW, I do understand the safety of backup cameras as I have had them on my motorhomes and toy haulers since 1988. Totally a necessity behind a big rig in a campground where kids roam unattended.
    I get that, but how hard is it to make the picture 1080P? I mean, it's one of the most prominently placed items on the dash. Make it quality. I get where you're coming from, but I also understand the complaint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unobtanium View Post
    I am. I used to be like you. "Who cares what some rag printed?!" So I bought a Jeep. because I liked everything about it (and still do prefer literally everything about it to my CX5), BUT! I ignored Consumer Reports...and just like they said, it fell apart. It was the best worst vehicle I've owned. So now, if it does poorly in CR, I could care less about anything else. I won't buy it.
    Well...you're not alone. My in-laws use CR as their baseline for most of their purchases. And it has worked out for them so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SignatureCX5 View Post
    I read many reviews from the rags and I find them interesting/entertaining but my decission to buy would never be based on them. As an example I searched for a replacement car for my wife for a year. The Signature CX-5 came out and we bought it on Nov 30th after nearly a 4 hour test drive. No reviews to go by atvtgst time, just smart buying sense.

    Don't trust anyone else, especially a stranger that is 'paid' to write articles. Do real research and go by seat of the pants. Anyone who bought a CRV based on someone else's opinion was just lazy!
    I wholeheartedly agree!
    I would not have even considered a new MAZDA but we went on a 1000 mile week end get away and I just had my MINI painted and did not want to drive it so the rental was a 2017 MAZDA. The next trip that same year we rented a FORD. Then again a HONDA. All the trips were about 900-1200 miles and over a 3 or 4 day weekend trip. I never read any reviews and when we decided to add a daily driver to the household the choice was based on the experience driving those 3 rentals. The Honda was just ridiculously priced for what you didn't get, the Ford was close but when we went to MAZDA that MICA BLACK and it had not been prepped still had all the protective skins and tape in the interior and the odometer said .75 miles it said take me home. So in less then 45 minutes drove it home as it was. I wanted to do the detailing myself. IMHO You cant beat going on a long test drive to really get a feel for a vehicle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grendel65 View Post
    I wholeheartedly agree!
    I would not have even considered a new MAZDA but we went on a 1000 mile week end get away and I just had my MINI painted and did not want to drive it so the rental was a 2017 MAZDA. The next trip that same year we rented a FORD. Then again a HONDA. All the trips were about 900-1200 miles and over a 3 or 4 day weekend trip. I never read any reviews and when we decided to add a daily driver to the household the choice was based on the experience driving those 3 rentals. The Honda was just ridiculously priced for what you didn't get, the Ford was close but when we went to MAZDA that MICA BLACK and it had not been prepped still had all the protective skins and tape in the interior and the odometer said .75 miles it said take me home. So in less then 45 minutes drove it home as it was. I wanted to do the detailing myself. IMHO You cant beat going on a long test drive to really get a feel for a vehicle.
    If a test drive was all it was about, I'd have bought another Jeep. Consumer Reports is as close as you can get to actually owning it and seeing what a nightmare or not it will be in 100K miles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by husker_soze View Post
    Well...you're not alone. My in-laws use CR as their baseline for most of their purchases. And it has worked out for them so far.
    Yup. Their findings parallel my experiences. So I just stick with them on reliability. Everything else, I see for myself, but the ownership experience for me has been defined by "does it break?"

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    Many people (probably tens of thousands) went out and bought a Honda CRV because MT made it the "SUV of the year" for 2018. Now, these people are stuck with a faulty engine that can experience catastrophic failure. So yes, when MT awards a vehicle "SUV of the year", sales increase for that vehicle. As even the manufacturer then runs with the "Motor Trend SUV of the year" in the advertisements. People believe if a bunch of vehicle reviewers picked this vehicle, it's a great vehicle.

    MT does have egg on its face. Could it have predicted the engine debacle? Of course not but by picking it, they promoted a lemon and they have to do some PR damage control now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unobtanium View Post
    I am. I used to be like you. "Who cares what some rag printed?!" So I bought a Jeep. because I liked everything about it (and still do prefer literally everything about it to my CX5), BUT! I ignored Consumer Reports...and just like they said, it fell apart. It was the best worst vehicle I've owned. So now, if it does poorly in CR, I could care less about anything else. I won't buy it.
    Jeep is now Motortrends SUV of the year for 2019 so reliability points don*t factor in the scoring!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lbear View Post
    Many people (probably tens of thousands) went out and bought a Honda CRV because MT made it the "SUV of the year" for 2018. Now, these people are stuck with a faulty engine that can experience catastrophic failure. So yes, when MT awards a vehicle "SUV of the year", sales increase for that vehicle. As even the manufacturer then runs with the "Motor Trend SUV of the year" in the advertisements. People believe if a bunch of vehicle reviewers picked this vehicle, it's a great vehicle.

    MT does have egg on its face. Could it have predicted the engine debacle? Of course not but by picking it, they promoted a lemon and they have to do some PR damage control now.
    I had test driven the CR-V and really liked it. Recommended it to my aunt and even sent her some of these reviews and things highlighting how great it was. Honestly, I did feel bad after hearing about the engine issues but she does not mind. What is nuts is the dealers are blatantly lying to her. Telling her things like "you can never have too much oil" and a very rare issue and such. She has no concerns but I have a fear that if something happens to the car, she will be forced to pay a lot to fix it but I am embarrassed to discuss this with her. ):
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