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    Slow NA Pro5 build

    Well the wagon has been through allot over these past 5 years and s*** is starting to fall off so it's time to finally start a build to try and keep Ole Yeller going.

    I'll start with the bad, the rear brakes are gone (calipers are seized and one side is actually missing a pad), struts and springs are toast, needs bushings EVERYWHERE, exhaust is ultra custom rust muffler delete (the muffler rotted off lol), engine mounts are all cracked out, engine is starting to smoke a good bit and transmission hasn't held fluid in 3 years. That being said I've driven it everyday for the past 5 years and it's taken a beating. (2 miles of haul roads everyday for 2 years probably didn't help), I'm pretty amazed this car is still running but it's sad to see the condition it's in and a little piece of me dies every time I hear another piece bouncing down the road behind me on the freeway.

    So I've decided to finally start rebuilding, I'm going to start with an engine and trans, and then gather all the suspension goodies I can and hopefully I can do everything all at once and just take a week off to install everything.
    My plan for the engine, I'm going to stay NA and keep it simple and reliable.

    wiseco 11:1 custom pistons with side skirt coating

    K1 Billet Forged Connecting Rods

    FSZE Camshafts

    DeatschWerks Fuel Injectors

    awr 4-2-1 exhaust header

    MP3 ECU Reflash

    Mishimoto Radiator

    Mishimoto Aluminum Fan and Shroud Kit*

    fidanza lightweight flywheel

    exedy stage one clutch kit

    AWR engine mounts kit

    Transmission is just getting a simple rebuild and either an msp or quaife limited slip
    (1) Main shaft oil seal

    (2) Axle oil seals

    (1) Locking Nut (main shaft)

    (1) Locking Nut (secondary)

    (2) LSD bearings

    (1) Lower Main shaft bearing

    (1) Lower Secondary shaft bearing

    (2) Upper shaft bearings (31.02 for both)

    Oil pass channel

    All (5) Synchros

    (2) main/secondary shaft shims

    (1) LSD shim


    For suspension I want a mild track build that's still streetable
    yellowspeed coilovers

    626 front brakes 1993-2002 (2.5L) V6
    v6 626 front calipers 1998 to 2002

    v6 626 front caliper brackets

    v6 front brake pads 1998 to 2002

    rear calipers from a mazdaspeed protege

    rear brake pads from a mazda6

    msp rear brakes
    Centric Posi Quiet Loaded Brake Calipers 142.45527 passenger side
    Centric Posi Quiet Loaded Brake Calipers 142.45528I drivers side

    msp 25mm front sway bar

    AWR rear sway bar 21.5mm

    AWR rear sway bar bushings polyurethane

    AWR rear sway bar brackets 21.5mm

    custom endlinks F/R

    AWR bushing clamps

    msp front strut tower brace

    Megan Racing Trailing Arms

    Megan Racing F&R Lateral Links

    Mazdaspeed Racing Harts 17x7 +55

    Yokohama 'S tires (I'm gunna try some firestone winter force for rallycross)

    Arp extended studs ARP-100-7708 from summit racing

    Braided Steel brake lines

    gt spec trunk cage (forums for sale once in a blue moon)


    So this is pretty much my plan of attack, most of this list will probably change seeing as I've never done anything this big before and don't really know my stuff, but hopefully at the end I will haha. I just picked a '97 626 engine to start tearing down, I've heard you can use the block but everything else will need to be swapped out with protege spec parts or it won't run quite right. Anyways I'm hoping you guys can help me out along the way and maybe this will eventually help someone else out. I will get pics when it's not dumping down rain.
    (Edit) I revised my to do list for my budget and ocd(lol), I priced out allot of it and realized I'd be in my mid thirtys before I finished. Btw if anyone has part ideas or knows any info you wanna share feel free to fill up the comments [emoji6]🖒
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    All about them stickers, crumpled panels, and mismatched paint yo

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    Hres the 626 motor, got it for 100$ at a local pick n pull
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    This ones going to be worth watching! Good luck and keep us posted

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    Took off intake manifold and exhaust manifold today, that's about it so far. Love how easy it was, I didn't have to touch anything but the thermostat and the manifolds.
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    Felt encouraged by my progress earlier and started to pull the timing belt cover and valve cover. Made pretty good progress till I hit the 10mm bolts on the cams, need a socket for the ones directly behind the cam gears and mine are all in the work rig at my coworkers. So I'm at a dead end till tomorrow, still not sure if I'm doing this all correctly(?) But stuff is happening [emoji23]
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    Following. Cant wait to see the progress!
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    Interior
    - JVC head unit
    -Sound Ordinance Sub woofer
    Exterior
    -WeatherTech Rain Guards
    Performance
    -HKS axle back
    -MP3 Flashed ECU (removed)
    -MazdaSpeed Protege Turbo kit
    -Tein S tech springs
    -KYB Struts
    -MSP Rear Sway Bar
    -CR3 Relocation Brackets
    -FMIC kit

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    Emailed corksport and wiseco, found out wiseco can do 11:1 pistons for just under a grand and corksport is able to source the ZE cams even though they don't sell them. I'm still waiting for a reply from corksport for pricing but oh man the internals alone are gunna be the price of the car alone haha. Anyways nothing much done today just some tidying up around the garage. I was wondering if anyone had recommendations for rods, I've done a bit of digging but I don't know enough myself. My goal for this build is 170-180hp so what rods should I get for an 11:1 comp. pistons and fsze cams? I'm not doing a crazy build like Installsheilds (Love that thread, wish I had twiggys [emoji24]) i just need some that are decently priced and won't s*** out after 100k. I'm kinda leaning towards the K1 billet rods as I've heard there is a lighter set specifically for NA builds, but info. Is getting sparse, Thanks guys and happy New Year's
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    Duuuuuude! So stoked to see this, glad to see your sticking with the pro! And unless your going standalone i'd probably stick with closer to stock CR pistons. K1 or molnar rods will be your cheapest new options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackie chan View Post
    Duuuuuude! So stoked to see this, glad to see your sticking with the pro! And unless your going standalone i'd probably stick with closer to stock CR pistons. K1 or molnar rods will be your cheapest new options.
    Thanks man, I was thinking of getting the ECU Reflashed with the mp3, I wanna do a stand alone but that's over of budget. I was thinking it would be able to handle the 11:1 because the mp3's are 10.4:1(...i think?), I've read a couple threads where people have run them with the mp3. I'm wondering if the FSZE cams are gun a be enough to handle it without adj. Cam gears. Anyways how's your pro5 doing? Anything new happening this summer?
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    Well I've got everything off but the oil pan and head, I'm stuck on the cam gears. Does anyone know a backwoods method or am I stuck buying the tool for it? And looks like I need to clean the garage again lol
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    There should be some flat areas cast in to the camshafts, Chuck a wrench on that and you should be able to get the bolts off the pulleys

    After that you might need a gear puller or maybe some persuasion from a soft face mallet (turn the cams every hit so it comes off evenly)

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    Sweet thank you man ima try that out in the morning
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    Quote Originally Posted by LankyKiwi View Post
    There should be some flat areas cast in to the camshafts, ..
    ^^^ What he said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by STudMUffin1177 View Post
    Thanks man, I was thinking of getting the ECU Reflashed with the mp3, I wanna do a stand alone but that's over of budget. I was thinking it would be able to handle the 11:1 because the mp3's are 10.4:1(...i think?), I've read a couple threads where people have run them with the mp3. I'm wondering if the FSZE cams are gun a be enough to handle it without adj. Cam gears. Anyways how's your pro5 doing? Anything new happening this summer?
    Haha, mines doing great man! I really need to update my thread sometime. But anyway, mp3 compression ratio and engine internals are all the same as a normal protege.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackie chan View Post
    Haha, mines doing great man! I really need to update my thread sometime. But anyway, mp3 compression ratio and engine internals are all the same as a normal protege.
    Damn I was way off haha, good to know though. Well I tried fitting a wrench on the cams, the largest one I have on me is 7/8 and it's just a bit too small so I decided to work on the valve cover instead. I couldn't get between the letters for the life of me so I said f*** it and ground them off lol
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