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    I don't think I was uncivil.. I'm sure Antoine will let me know- if so I'm sorry it wasn't my intent..but if the limit is x(be it large or small) and you're 40x that limit that does something harmful you're a really bad actor, you should be punished, fined and people should go to jail. You're also forgetting that with this device most of these vehicles didn't even need urea- they're just better at diesel than everyone else! They got away with it for a long time, but it finally caught up w/them.

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    Oh man that guy is such a tool. He lost me a long time ago with his opinionated rants.

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    You sounded pretty angry. When people get angry I find itís best to walk away.

    And the problem with 40x or whatever kind of statements is you can use them to make something sound really big or really small. I feel itís media sensationalism.

    But agreed not good and they got fined. I just prefer to move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monterra View Post
    Yeah this is fake news- had zero effective impact on the bet--6.6 was his (and I'll call it what it is) bs effort to appease. He could've made it interesting and/or doubled it on the 6.2 number but chose to preserve his 50 in the bank like an aarp member instead which is fine. The bet is over, VW killed diesel here- Hyundai's is dead here now too- so yeah way more pissed at that than losing 50 bucks and the stick in the eye is hearing their gay ass govt mandated commercials ad fkn nauseam on Pandora about electric vehicles are here and everyone that hasn't/doesn't convert is driving in the past. FU VW, FU- every time that shit comes on I literally want to puke. It ain't over till its official but saying I have a snowball's chance in hell is generous at this point and that is quite sad...but we have a turbo CX-5 now that's actually pretty quick and is capable of 30 on the road so that's some consolation.
    I'm cold and calculating. It was always this way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jthj View Post
    Oh man that guy is such a tool. He lost me a long time ago with his opinionated rants.
    Sounds like a short opinionated rant, if you ask me. Further, he offered me $50. How was I to refuse? If I offered to give you $50, would you refuse?

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    Man all this 0-60 talk is making me want to upgrade but that would be such a bad financial decision. Must resist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unobtanium View Post
    Sounds like a short opinionated rant, if you ask me. Further, he offered me $50. How was I to refuse? If I offered to give you $50, would you refuse?
    I guess just watch some more of his videos. Sometimes heís on point other times.... more often than not. I think heís a bit off. Heís entertaining at least. So I did watch more of them than I should have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lbear View Post
    With a 0-60mph time of 6.2 seconds that should equate to a 14.90 @ 96mph in the 1/4 mile
    It's AWD, which is why you got a better ET and worse mph, IMO, if you're using an online calculator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monterra View Post
    14.8@95 according to C/D...hey C/D- 14.8 to 95, but nearly 2 full ticks more- 16.7 to go 0-100? Somebody cookin the data books?
    Nah, those last 5mph honestly do take that long. It looks legit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadonoz View Post
    That caught my eye, too. But maybe not if it's past the power peak in 4th. And it may well be considering that torque curve.

    Could be a typo, too.
    Likely it involves a gear-change.

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    Car and Driver 2019 CX5 article.

    Well also doesnít it kinda drop off in the upper end? And aerodynamics is much more of an issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigtex View Post
    Performance-wise the CX5 turbo is now competitive with the luxury brands on HP with more torque down low (310 lb-ft @ 2000 RPM) and zero turbo lag. All for roughly $20K less than each of these. Also looks better inside and out than all but the Fpace in my opinion, but that is subjective.

    Audi Q5 252 HP, 5.8
    BMW X3 248 HP, 6.2
    MB GLC300 241 HP, 5.9
    Volvo XC60 250 HP, 6.4
    Jaguar Fpace 247 HP, 6.2
    The reviewer did say it had significant lag compared to the Volvo XC40, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jthj View Post
    Well also doesn*t it kinda drop off in the upper end? And aerodynamics is much more of an issue.
    I honestly think it's a gearing thing. Also keep in mind aerodynamics is logarithmic. Look at the 0-120 time, though. It's honestly not shabby at all, I just think 95-100 is the literal bottom of the next gear.

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    Car and Driver 2019 CX5 article.

    Could be the case for sure. Maybe if they had an 8 speed with 1-6 more of close ratio setup..... maybe..... I think we need to stop the more gears nonsense at some point though as itís starting to seem like diminishing returns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jthj View Post
    Could be the case for sure. Maybe if they had an 8 speed with 1-6 more of close ratio setup..... maybe..... I think we need to stop the more gears nonsense at some point though as it*s starting to seem like diminishing returns.
    I think a solid 8 speed would be great!

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