- :
- Denver, CO
Haven't tried the turbo yet sorry.What I meant was, what performance difference did you notice between your cx 5 and the turbo?
Haven't tried the turbo yet sorry.What I meant was, what performance difference did you notice between your cx 5 and the turbo?
Here's where he got confused. CD was talking about his current ride here.I only went to one Mazda dealer to test drive. They let me take it where I wanted which included going up I-70 a bit into the mountains. I pushed it.
Those customers are going to be left in the dust by Mazda anyway as they go premium. For anyone who wants a sub-$30k CX-5, this is probably the last generation that will cater to that price point.
That itself is a good option!
Then Mazda is playing beyond their name's value, and is going to pay dearly for stepping into waters too deep for them.
GM realized this. Toyota realized this. Ford realized this. VW realized this. Hyundai is finding out the hard way, and so will Mazda. Ain't NO DAMN BODY buying any "Genesis" products because it's a Hyundai, and sold on a Hyundai lot with a Hyundai badge on it.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/243186/hyundais-vehicle-sales-in-the-united-states-by-segment/
Then Mazda is playing beyond their name's value, and is going to pay dearly for stepping into waters too deep for them.
GM realized this. Toyota realized this. Ford realized this. VW realized this. Hyundai is finding out the hard way, and so will Mazda. Ain't NO DAMN BODY buying any "Genesis" products because it's a Hyundai, and sold on a Hyundai lot with a Hyundai badge on it.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/243186/hyundais-vehicle-sales-in-the-united-states-by-segment/
I guess agree to disagree. Mazda is a niche brand with a sporty flair, making it an ideal candidate to convincingly transition to an upscale brand.
Also, a big difference between Mazda*s path and the examples you cite is that Mazda will be fully committed to premium. Its name won*t be dragged down by selling econo car crap like the Fiesta or Yaris opposite it*s premium offerings. That identity crisis is where other brands have failed.
I have no personal insight into Mazda's corporate plan, but it looks to me that by releasing a small (at least so far) number of high end "luxury" models, they're simply testing the waters to see the demand for them. Someone on these forums posted earlier that Mazda sold most of their CX-5s in GT trim, so you can't confuse their curiosity with "playing beyond their name's value". I realize the person who mentioned this is unhappy with his vehicle, since in hindsight he would have rather had a <del>Buick</del> Chrysler. I suspect that Mazda anticipates brisk business in the reserve line, and I expect the 2.5T to trickle to the GT line in 2020, but no later than 2021.
Mazda USED to have a sporty flair. Now they are the new CR-V. Edgy, but don't confuse it with actual sporty vehicles.
Mazda is still Mazda. You'd have to be out your mind to spend Mercedes money on one within the same vehicle style bracket.
Mazda USED to have a sporty flair. Now they are the new CR-V. Edgy, but don't confuse it with actual sporty vehicles.
Mazda is still Mazda. You'd have to be out your mind to spend Mercedes money on one within the same vehicle style bracket.
Mazda is definitely sportier on the driving dynamics and suspension feel though less so on Gen 2 for the CX-5.
Where Mazda is NOT the sporty brand anymore is that they no longer sell high hp sports cars. No RX sports coupe, no Mazdaspeed 3 or 6. Mazda has lost that part of its Zoom Zoom image.
That's my hope as well, though they've made it clear they have no intention to do so for now.i'm sure once sales start to increase and Mazda gets a firm grip on the market, they will offer their Zoom Zoom back.
That's my hope as well, though they've made it clear they have no intention to do so for now.
Guess we'll see how it goes.
That perspective is completely opposite of pretty much every professional auto critic out there. The CX-5 is universally praised as the sportiest in its class by far, with many citing its looks and German-esque drive feel. Just because it*s not powerful doesn*t mean its not sporty. You can disagree with that all you want, but if we*re arguing about brand perception, those critics represent the mainstream view.
Anyway, I think you underrate the ease of changing customer perception. All it takes is a streak of quality and great curb appeal. It*s not like Mazda is starting off with a trash reputation like the Korean brands.
Actually, they are. Tons of people still equate Mazda to Ford's econo line.
I guess agree to disagree. Mazda is a niche brand with a sporty flair, making it an ideal candidate to convincingly transition to an upscale brand.
Also, a big difference between Mazdas path and the examples you cite is that Mazda will be fully committed to premium. Its name wont be dragged down by selling econo car crap like the Fiesta or Yaris opposite its premium offerings. That identity crisis is where other brands have failed.