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    Quote Originally Posted by MoistMazdas View Post
    someone should try opening up one of these filters after a 5000 mile and 2500 mile interval and see how the filter element looks. something tells me the size of these little filters indicates that they are only good for roughly 2500 miles of use.
    Maybe if you use pantyhose over the intake for the air filter, rofl!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoistMazdas View Post
    someone should try opening up one of these filters after a 5000 mile and 2500 mile interval and see how the filter element looks. something tells me the size of these little filters indicates that they are only good for roughly 2500 miles of use.
    Comical to even think,crazy to even consider.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColoradoDriver View Post
    Bought a Thailand Mazda filter on Amazon for $9.

    The dealer was selling the Value Line Mexico ones for $12. And Med Center Mazda loses any monetary savings due to outrageous shipping costs.
    $12 for one? Shows you the difference in location. My dealer will sell a value line or thailand model for under $8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sekmor View Post
    Don't feel so bad about the filter. My dealer charged me for a Mazda filter and look what I found installed....ReliaGuard R1365. Now I wouldn't buy one of these to install myself, but if the dealer uses them, does it meet the OEM spec??? I've seen a lot of crappy filters in my day, but have yet to see an engine fail because of it. No matter, doing my own changes, I've been using the Mazda brand, but have used Wix on many other vehicle applications.
    Here are a couple comparisons, the one on the left is the Mazda filter.

    After seeing the comment above, cutting the filter media, there is about 40% more area than the generic filter.
    Could not find specs of that R1365 filter....but I do know its a universal filter. I'd stick to OEM or Wix/Purolator.

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    Has anyone ever been told WHY we in the USA can not get the Japan PE01-14-302 anymore ? Like the official reason. It was the factory filter on my June 27, 2017 built CX-5.
    Last edited by VQ35DE; 05-30-2018 at 01:49 PM.

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    Arrow Mobil1 Extended Performance M1-108A vs. Wix 57002 oil filters

    Quote Originally Posted by VQ35DE View Post
    Has anyone ever been told WHY we in the USA can not get the Japan PE01-14-302 anymore ? Like the official reason. It was the factory filter on my June 27, 2017 built CX-5.
    Your factory oil filter is the newer PE01-14-302B but the Japanese oil filter we used to get is PE01-14-302A. The reason why we can no longer get best-quality Japanese oil filter? Cost!

    Quote Originally Posted by yrwei52 View Post
    Actually there's a newer PE01-14-302B oil filter in Japan used in 2017 CX-5. Not sure if this revised "B" version Japanese made oil filter would be available in the US?


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    There're now 3 OEM Mazda SkyActiv oil filters:

    OEM Mazda
    SkyActiv Oil Filters
    PE01-14-302A Made in Japan.
    Best quality by visual comparison.
    Comes with greased O-ring type gasket、
    shrink wrapped seal on top preventing dust、
    and packaged in a sealed paper box.
    1WPE-14-302 Made in Thailand.
    Smaller in outside diameter than PE01-14-302A.
    Comes with greased O-ring type gasket、
    shrink wrapped seal on top preventing dust、
    and packaged in a non-sealed paper box.
    PE01-14-302A-MV Made in Mexico.
    "Value" line OEM maintenance parts.
    Comes with non-greased flat gasket、
    shrink wrapped seal on entire filter、
    and no paper box.

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    I have chose to use 1WPE-14-302 and not use PE01-14-302A-MV since we can not get a real Japan filter anymore in the USA . Anyone else want to share their opinion between those two ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NelsonLewis View Post
    Comical to even think,crazy to even consider.
    not until you actually open one up and look...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoistMazdas View Post
    not until you actually open one up and look...
    I’m running the M1 108A right now with no issues. The size of the filter has no meaning, as long as it fulfills the filtering requirements.

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    Arrow Mazda OEM Oil Filters

    Quote Originally Posted by VQ35DE View Post
    I have chose to use 1WPE-14-302 and not use PE01-14-302A-MV since we can not get a real Japan filter anymore in the USA . Anyone else want to share their opinion between those two ?
    Yeah I have all 3 different Mazda OEM oil filters in hand and have compared them carefully. I believe Tokyo Roki PE01-14-302A is the best made oil filter for SkyActiv-G. I bought all left-overs of Japanese-made Mazda oil filters from Med Center Mazda last year. After about 12 years when I ran out Japanese filter, I'd use the second-best Thai made 1WPE-14-302 Denso filter. Mexican made PE01-14-302A-MV "Value" filter is good, but that's my last choice among all 3 OEM oil filters. Here's an old post with more details on these three with links to cut-open reviews:

    Quote Originally Posted by yrwei52 View Post
    The guy in video apparently doesn't know too much about Mazda SkyActiv-G engines. He cut open a Thailand-made 1WPE-14-302 Mazda OEM filter but kept wondering why there's no oil left inside the filter, and why he didn't see an anti-drainback valve! The oil was all gone because there's no ADBV. And the oil filter for SA-G is mounted baseplate up hence it doesn't need ADBV! Further, we can see an o-ring on the side of by-pass valve touching center core of the filtering media, how is it possible it would be leaking unfiltered oil commented by the guy? This's a perfect example of false information easily be found on the Internet!

    Here are several links of info from Bob is the Oil Guy on all 3 Mazda OEM filters been cut open with pictures:

    Mazda PE01-14-302 Factory Filter CUT OPEN

    Mazda 1WPE-14-302 Filter 5k mi - Mystery Bypass!

    Mazda PE01-14-302A-MV used cut open 7,779 miles

    All of them looked excellent after many thousand miles of service including the Mexican made one. So Lbear, don't bother looking for unknown aftermarket oil filters, just go get OEM. Yeah, Mazda did go cheap discontinued Japanese oil filter and outsourced to other manufacturers. But oil filters made by those manufacturers still have to meet the required specifications given by Mazda. You can always get the Denso one if you ask for it at dealer's parts department with 1WPE-14-302 part number. They can always order one for you if they don't have it in stock. Remember even the Mexican made OEM oil filter is excellent according to the cut-open result.

    BTW, 1WPE-14-302 from Thailand is most likely made by Denso as it's physically different in size comparing to PE01-14-302A from Japan made by Tokyo Roki. Some claim PE01-14-302A-MV from Mexico is made by Wix but someone had cut open both Mazda "Value Products" PE01-14-302A-MV and Wix 57002 and found they're definitely different.

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