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    But you guys can’t go fast anyway. Don’t worry about it

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    Quote Originally Posted by jthj View Post
    But you guys can’t go fast anyway. Don’t worry about it


    Still, would like decent take off and overtaking performance please and somehow 2.0L SkyActiv-X CX-5 Akera won't do that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeler8ing View Post
    Correct but should be better than current 2.0L
    Could've sworn I saw a vid/read magazine of 2.0 skyactive engine and the performance (power) was like 90% of the 2.5l skyactiv. Perhaps this could be Mazda's CX-5 mpg model stopgap before providing a hybrid model.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CX-5um View Post
    Could've sworn I saw a vid/read magazine of 2.0 skyactive engine and the performance (power) was like 90% of the 2.5l skyactiv. Perhaps this could be Mazda's CX-5 mpg model stopgap before providing a hybrid model.
    Haven't seen this anywhere
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeler8ing View Post
    Haven't seen this anywhere
    Here's on vid where the guy comments while driving a 2.0 prototype from 2017. Check out what he say's starting at the 1:12 mark. Says it feels more like the current 2.5 engine. The weight savings helps to minimize the 0-60 difference not to mention improve MPGs a lot and improve cornering vs the 2.5.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5P_sACVuxQ
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    Quote Originally Posted by CX-5um View Post
    Here's on vid where the guy comments while driving a 2.0 prototype from 2017. Check out what he say's starting at the 1:12 mark. Says it feels more like the current 2.5 engine. The weight savings helps to minimize the 0-60 difference not to mention improve MPGs a lot and improve cornering vs the 2.5.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5P_sACVuxQ
    "Makes them feel" is one thing but they are estimating torque figure of 170ft/lbs which is still a deficit to current 186ft/lbs. The extra weight loss is for the Mazda 3 which already weighs considerably less than the CX-5. Even if they chop some weight off the CX-5, still won't be enough for the 2.0 SkyActiv-X

    Might be the whole 2012/2013 CX-5 again where they initially released it with the 2.0 SkyActiv engine which was not enough and after hearing complaints, Mazda added the 2.5 SkyActiv not long after.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeler8ing View Post
    "Makes them feel" is one thing but they are estimating torque figure of 170ft/lbs which is still a deficit to current 186ft/lbs. The extra weight loss is for the Mazda 3 which already weighs considerably less than the CX-5. Even if they chop some weight off the CX-5, still won't be enough for the 2.0 SkyActiv-X

    Might be the whole 2012/2013 CX-5 again where they initially released it with the 2.0 SkyActiv engine which was not enough and after hearing complaints, Mazda added the 2.5 SkyActiv not long after.
    My guess is the it comes out on the Mazda3 first. Considering the test vehicle is an actual Mazda3. Once developed it should be fairly easy to develop a 2.5 version for the CX-5 to get on par with Toyota's new 2.5 engine.

    Other markets outside of the Us could get the 2.0 version BUT this thing runs better on 87 octane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CX-5um View Post
    My guess is the it comes out on the Mazda3 first. Considering the test vehicle is an actual Mazda3. Once developed it should be fairly easy to develop a 2.5 version for the CX-5 to get on par with Toyota's new 2.5 engine.

    Other markets outside of the Us could get the 2.0 version BUT this thing runs better on 87 octane.
    that the Mazda 3 will get it first but currently there's the 2.0 & 2.5L SkyActiv engines and the 2.0L SkyActiv-X has to be good enough to cover both of these.

    Autogefuhl did say a 2.5 SkyActiv-X is possibly in the pipeline.

    We have the following fuels here:

    • Regular unleaded 91 RON (87 Octane)
    • E10 unleaded 94 RON
    • Premium unleaded 95 RON (90 Octane)
    • Premium unleaded 98 RON (93 Octane)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeler8ing View Post
    that the Mazda 3 will get it first but currently there's the 2.0 & 2.5L SkyActiv engines and the 2.0L SkyActiv-X has to be good enough to cover both of these.

    Autogefuhl did say a 2.5 SkyActiv-X is possibly in the pipeline.

    We have the following fuels here:

    • Regular unleaded 91 RON (87 Octane)
    • E10 unleaded 94 RON
    • Premium unleaded 95 RON (90 Octane)
    • Premium unleaded 98 RON (93 Octane)
    Forgot to add that current SkyActiv engines tuned for 91 RON but will accept all fuel types.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeler8ing View Post
    that the Mazda 3 will get it first but currently there's the 2.0 & 2.5L SkyActiv engines and the 2.0L SkyActiv-X has to be good enough to cover both of these.

    Autogefuhl did say a 2.5 SkyActiv-X is possibly in the pipeline.

    We have the following fuels here:

    • Regular unleaded 91 RON (87 Octane)
    • E10 unleaded 94 RON
    • Premium unleaded 95 RON (90 Octane)
    • Premium unleaded 98 RON (93 Octane)
    Mazda is increasing the upcoming Miata's engine output. Same 2.0 Skyactiv with slight tweaks. 181HP and 151LBs Tq. AND 7500 rpm redline AND with increased MPGs. What?!?!

    The point being that if they applied the same thing to the current 2.5l and increase HP 20% that would be 222HP. Mazda can take its time with Skyactiv-X to allow it to be more reliable while they merely tweak the 2.5 Skyactiv1 engine to buy some time.

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    Unfortunately I don’t think it’s that simple. There is a reason 2.0 is a very ubiquitous displacement for a 4 cylinder and you don’t usually see them larger than 2.5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jthj View Post
    Unfortunately I donít think itís that simple. There is a reason 2.0 is a very ubiquitous displacement for a 4 cylinder and you donít usually see them larger than 2.5.
    Agreed. Mazda had to add a balance shaft and other tweaks to SkyActiv-G 2.5L comparing to its original SkyActiv-G 2.0L.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CX-5um View Post
    Mazda is increasing the upcoming Miata's engine output. Same 2.0 Skyactiv with slight tweaks. 181HP and 151LBs Tq. AND 7500 rpm redline AND with increased MPGs. What?!?!

    The point being that if they applied the same thing to the current 2.5l and increase HP 20% that would be 222HP. Mazda can take its time with Skyactiv-X to allow it to be more reliable while they merely tweak the 2.5 Skyactiv1 engine to buy some time.
    They are not going to because if they did, they would not have added cylinder deactivation
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