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    Quote Originally Posted by Fruitwolf View Post
    Imagine this scenario ... after years of one-sided political bantering on Assbook, a guy has an epiphany. "Hey... the opposition has a point there.... Wow! That's it, I'm now changing political parties."

    Never gonna happen.

    Yup...wishful thinking...but there was a thread that was similar that got out of hand and guess what? Moderator stepped in and shut the thread down! Try to keep the discussion as relevant as possible is all I was asking for as this thread could soon face the same fate!

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    If you look at the newly redesigned RAV4, it only has Apple Car Play, no Android Auto - anyone care to ask Toyota why they did that???

    There isn't any vehicle out there that has everything you want - I'd say the CX-9 was the best combo of what I wanted within the budget I wanted to spend.. I'd love to get an '18 to get the additional features? sure! But then I'd want the '19 for more additional features...

    I will say that I tried Android auto on a rental and I didn't like it at all. Now granted, it was a Chevy sedan, and their tech seems very blah

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggs View Post
    If you look at the newly redesigned RAV4, it only has Apple Car Play, no Android Auto - anyone care to ask Toyota why they did that???

    There isn't any vehicle out there that has everything you want - I'd say the CX-9 was the best combo of what I wanted within the budget I wanted to spend.. I'd love to get an '18 to get the additional features? sure! But then I'd want the '19 for more additional features...

    I will say that I tried Android auto on a rental and I didn't like it at all. Now granted, it was a Chevy sedan, and their tech seems very blah
    Best "combo" of what you wanted? That just can't be. You are supposed to ONLY want the CX-9 because it drives like a Mazda. You can't want other features--if you do, you just shouldn't be driving the CX-9. ..... At least, that's what I read...somewhere.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by tex2670 View Post
    Best "combo" of what you wanted? That just can't be. You are supposed to ONLY want the CX-9 because it drives like a Mazda. You can't want other features--if you do, you just shouldn't be driving the CX-9. ..... At least, that's what I read...somewhere.....
    You seem to misinterpret everything.

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    I see the point that most people are trying to make here. It's that the CX-9's infotainment is it's point of failure (in terms of features, specifically the lack of AA/ACP). We need to take a step back and realize that it could always be better. If it did come with AA/ACP, people would complain about the audio system. If it had a great audio system, people would complain about the lack of a panoramic sunroof. If it had the panoramic roof, people would complain about the lack of a 360-degree camera, and so on and so forth. It can always be improved upon.

    I'm happy with the package that the CX-9 provides, and while I recognize that it can be improved in certain areas, I'd rather enjoy it than keep looking for things to complain about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPL View Post
    Constantly talking about the CX-9's "shortcomings" miss the entire point of its intent.
    This thread was very specific. AA/ AC deployment. Unless I missed something, I am not sure why you are implying there's a trend of moaning about Mazda's shortcomings or that our priorities are misguided for wanting this feature. Personally, it is something I would have appreciated having. Clearly not a requirement, as I bought my CX-9.

    The overt vagueness, poor communication and misinformation is what I particularly take issue with. You have presented Mazda as a niche OEM with unique requirements, which may be true, but it doesn't explain/ excuse any of the above. AA/ AC has been a relevant ask from people for a while now.

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    Like everything in this country we always have to take it to the extreme lol. I love the way my CX-9 drives, it I canít say Iím 100% happy with the driving experience. Infotainment is a big deal. If youíre not going to provide AA/ACP at least provide a system thatís reliable and functional. Whoever said that this system is better than óóóóó youíre smoking something. My wifeís bmw doesnít have aa/acp but the infotainment system works! Itís fast. Refined. Nissans rogue system connects to Bluetooth instantly. Fords sync can search online. Mazda lags in every aspect. They excel at having nice controls. But what are nice controls if the software and hardware are crap? Youíre telling me our system isnít slow? It doesnít have bugs? Youíre telling me youíre happy getting in your car and the infotainment system screen going black or rebooting mid navigation is acceptable?
    And by the way, Iíve driven a Ford Explorer, youíre blowing things are of proportion. Yes, the interior isnít as nice, but the car has its own nice features that the cx9 doesnít have. Seats werenít an issue for me and I drove for hours in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aleki2424 View Post
    This thread was very specific. AA/ AC deployment. Unless I missed something, I am not sure why you are implying there's a trend of moaning about Mazda's shortcomings or that our priorities are misguided for wanting this feature. Personally, it is something I would have appreciated having. Clearly not a requirement, as I bought my CX-9.

    The overt vagueness, poor communication and misinformation is what I particularly take issue with. You have presented Mazda as a niche OEM with unique requirements, which may be true, but it doesn't explain/ excuse any of the above. AA/ AC has been a relevant ask from people for a while now.
    Yes, the thread topic is AA / AC but it went off the rails and I responded to the usual talk about all the so called things missing from Mazda's and the CX-9.

    If people must have such integration, fine and dandy. I'm just saying that they are now prioritizing entertainment shortcuts over the car. I prefer to prioritize the car.

    It's also the attitude that Mazda is the only one sitting on the sidelines regarding AA/AC. Numerous brands only offer one or the other. The world's largest automaker has just decided to implement it them. Nissan, one of the largest automakers doesn't have Android Auto. Android is 90% of the market. BMW doesn't either. Where's the outrage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SDL View Post
    Like everything in this country we always have to take it to the extreme lol. I love the way my CX-9 drives, it I canít say Iím 100% happy with the driving experience. Infotainment is a big deal. If youíre not going to provide AA/ACP at least provide a system thatís reliable and functional. Whoever said that this system is better than óóóóó youíre smoking something. My wifeís bmw doesnít have aa/acp but the infotainment system works! Itís fast. Refined. Nissans rogue system connects to Bluetooth instantly. Fords sync can search online. Mazda lags in every aspect. They excel at having nice controls. But what are nice controls if the software and hardware are crap? Youíre telling me our system isnít slow? It doesnít have bugs? Youíre telling me youíre happy getting in your car and the infotainment system screen going black or rebooting mid navigation is acceptable?
    And by the way, Iíve driven a Ford Explorer, youíre blowing things are of proportion. Yes, the interior isnít as nice, but the car has its own nice features that the cx9 doesnít have. Seats werenít an issue for me and I drove for hours in it.
    Maybe it's a 2016 thing. My screen has never gone black, rebooted, or had any issue. Connects to Bluetooth in under 10 seconds uoon startup. Would I like it to be 1 second, sure but while I'm often in a hurry, the extra 8 seconds isn't something to concern myself with. Plus, I only connect my phone's music source here and there. I usually listen to Sirius/XM radio that starts up in 2 seconds.

    Personally, I love the system. Does every thing I need it to do except one nice feature I'd like and that is to mirror Google Maps though AA since there's nothing that beats their mapping/navigation/search/info system.

    I didn't overstate anything regarding the Explorer. Due the seats, I almost couldn't drive it. Everything else is so true. Feels like a hollow tin can compared to the CX-9.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPL View Post
    Infotainment should have nothing to do with the buying decision process. If it does, you don't like cars. You are one who can't wait until self driving cars come along in which you can just stare at your phone the whole time. Unless it came down to an exact 50/50 decision between 2 cars and the only tie breaker in one's view was infotainment.

    While one wonders why Mazda doesn't have it yet, I wonder why CX-9 competitors look and feel $10K cheaper. No AC/AA doesn't even enter my mind when I continue to be amazed at how brilliant the vehicle is. Have you sat in an Explorer, for example. Complete pile of garbage in comparison. I feel bad for all the sheep that buy it.
    Quote Originally Posted by JPL View Post
    Yes, the thread topic is AA / AC but it went off the rails and I responded to the usual talk about all the so called things missing from Mazda's and the CX-9.

    If people must have such integration, fine and dandy. I'm just saying that they are now prioritizing entertainment shortcuts over the car. I prefer to prioritize the car.

    It's also the attitude that Mazda is the only one sitting on the sidelines regarding AA/AC. Numerous brands only offer one or the other. The world's largest automaker has just decided to implement it them. Nissan, one of the largest automakers doesn't have Android Auto. Android is 90% of the market. BMW doesn't either. Where's the outrage?
    Except that you didn't previously say that it was "fine and dandy" for others to have a different priority in their car buying purchase. You had a clear commentary as to what a buyer should prioritize; that's not exactly the same message as "Diff'rent strokes for different folks."

    You can choose what aspects of a car are important to you--and that's "fine and dandy." But those "sheep" that have other priorities may decide that the CX-9 is not what's best for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPL View Post
    The world's largest automaker has just decided to implement it them. Nissan, one of the largest automakers doesn't have Android Auto. Android is 90% of the market. BMW doesn't either. Where's the outrage?
    I couldn't care less about what Nissan is doing. They lost my business 10 years ago. I *DO* care about Mazda, their statements, their processes, their execution, differentiation and strategy. Be as it may, this is my third Mazda, and I'll be looking to replace this one some day. As for BMW, at least they have found a way to implement Car Play so that analogy isn't completely valid either. Personally it shows they took some initiative

    Quote Originally Posted by JPL View Post
    Maybe it's a 2016 thing. My screen has never gone black, rebooted, or had any issue.
    I've had intermittent blank screen issues on my 2017 GT. I got the software update in Dec and it was OK for a while, but now it seems to have returned. The issues seem to be prevalent with folks in the Mid-West with our extended sub-40 degree weather. Mazda also knows about it, they even make you call a dedicated CS number so the dealer can get RMA for a screen replacement. I am anticipating a recall someday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tex2670 View Post
    Except that you didn't previously say that it was "fine and dandy" for others to have a different priority in their car buying purchase. You had a clear commentary as to what a buyer should prioritize; that's not exactly the same message as "Diff'rent strokes for different folks."

    You can choose what aspects of a car are important to you--and that's "fine and dandy." But those "sheep" that have other priorities may decide that the CX-9 is not what's best for them.
    My point was that it seems one is buying phone shortcuts first, automobile second. If that's where we are in the car business, I just think it's a shame. I'm unfortunately aware that a good portion of shoppers shop in this manner. It's still my opinion that these particular people aren't into CARS. Both arguments are still true. Thing is, most people aren't really "into cars".

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    Quote Originally Posted by aleki2424 View Post
    I couldn't care less about what Nissan is doing. They lost my business 10 years ago. I *DO* care about Mazda, their statements, their processes, their execution, differentiation and strategy. Be as it may, this is my third Mazda, and I'll be looking to replace this one some day. As for BMW, at least they have found a way to implement Car Play so that analogy isn't completely valid either. Personally it shows they took some initiative



    I've had intermittent blank screen issues on my 2017 GT. I got the software update in Dec and it was OK for a while, but now it seems to have returned. The issues seem to be prevalent with folks in the Mid-West with our extended sub-40 degree weather. Mazda also knows about it, they even make you call a dedicated CS number so the dealer can get RMA for a screen replacement. I am anticipating a recall someday.
    It's relevant for me to bring up what the rest of the market is doing. We have this constant Mazda bashing not only on here but all over the internet about their slow approach to implementation. Mazda is a tiny company compared to Toyota and Nissan. It should be no surprise that Mazda wouldn't have it locked in yet. I'm not here to make excuses, but to have some perspective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SDL View Post
    Infotainment is a big deal. If youíre not going to provide AA/ACP at least provide a system thatís reliable and functional. Whoever said that this system is better than óóóóó youíre smoking something. My wifeís bmw doesnít have aa/acp but the infotainment system works! Itís fast. Refined. Nissans rogue system connects to Bluetooth instantly. Fords sync can search online. Mazda lags in every aspect. They excel at having nice controls. But what are nice controls if the software and hardware are crap? Youíre telling me our system isnít slow? It doesnít have bugs? Youíre telling me youíre happy getting in your car and the infotainment system screen going black or rebooting mid navigation is acceptable?
    I have yet to experience any of those symptoms or issues in my 2017 Mazda 6 (same system as your CX-9).
    I don't know what your problems are, but my phone connects in a matter of seconds after I get in the car.
    The Nav system boots up quickly, and has never let me down. I used it every day during my trip to Florida and back (from Canada), and it worked flawlessly.
    Maybe I'm naive, or just lucky, but I like the info system in the Mazda, and it has done everything it's supposed to do.
    As for AA/APC.....I could care less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPL View Post
    My point was that it seems one is buying phone shortcuts first, automobile second. If that's where we are in the car business, I just think it's a shame. I'm unfortunately aware that a good portion of shoppers shop in this manner. It's still my opinion that these particular people aren't into CARS. Both arguments are still true. Thing is, most people aren't really "into cars".
    But I think you are oversimplifying. To your point, if "all else is equal", then let that be the deciding factor. It is never the case where all else is equal--but between CX-9, Highlander, Pilot, Santa Fe, Sorento, and whatever other competitor you want to plug in, a buyer is going to get a very good or great vehicle, especially in top of the line trim, and it may be something minor that pushes them from one car to another--including the availability of a certain color.

    And a small company like Mazda has to realize and appreciate this fact.

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