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    Racing Beat Rear Swaybar Questions

    Hey guys, I need to get a few things cleared up before I empty my wallet. I did search for some definitive answers, but didn't get any.

    I know that the RB rear swaybar will not fit a P5 on stock endlinks, and as a result, you have to buy adjustable/ES endlinks (the non-"sport suspension" ones).

    Here's the confusion: Do you absolutely need the AWR rear swaybar brackets?

    If so, which one?

    Designated for the P5, but the RB swaybar on a P5 needs ES endlinks: http://store.awrracing.com/sway-bar-...s-replacement/

    Designated for MP3/MSP/ES, but if I need ES endlinks, shouldn't this work?: http://store.awrracing.com/sway-bar-...s-replacement/

    I feel like looking up this info and reading the responses to the how-to thread (https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...y-bar-on-P5-ES) left me a little uncertain of myself.

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    Is that just for the RB sway bar? Otherwise i'll just get another brand if that's the case. I recently changed all 4 endlinks so I don't feel like getting new ones.

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    Yes, just for the RB sway bar. I already own it, and it's just been sitting around, waiting for me to get my car set up for it.

    I'm unsure about whether or not I need the brackets, and if I do need them, which ones would fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riot_Polizei View Post
    Yes, just for the RB sway bar. I already own it, and it's just been sitting around, waiting for me to get my car set up for it.

    I'm unsure about whether or not I need the brackets, and if I do need them, which ones would fit.
    Oh ok cool then I'll snag a different one lol

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    Hold on man, would you know whether or not I need brackets?

    I'm looking for answers here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riot_Polizei View Post

    Here's the confusion: Do you absolutely need the AWR rear swaybar brackets?.
    No you don't. You can get away with using Energy Suspension bushings and brackets. When I installed mine years back, I used the 19mm ones from Energy. The reason is, they only have sizes 20.5mm or 19mm. I tried the 20.5 but was a bit too loose. The 19mm worked just fine. However, you will have to bend them to fit as they are flat from Energy. Also Kingfab6 has these pre-bent but their website seems to have been hacked or something so no link. Try and call them if you want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riot_Polizei View Post
    Hold on man, would you know whether or not I need brackets?

    I'm looking for answers here.
    No, sorry. Which is why I haven't purchased a sway bar and having other things needing replacement on the car. I understand, I'm also looking for answers since ill be doing the same thing at some point.

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    The MSP/MP3 racing beat brackets will fit the stock subframe, but it is best to swap the reinforced MSP subframe when you do the bar.
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    hornsfan, what (or where) exactly is the difference in the subframe? Can the P5 subframe be modified to MSP spec?

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    There is an extra piece of metal welded into the subframe where the swaybar brackets bolt on. I think that is the only difference. In all honesty the stock subframe will probably be fine, but I swapped the whole thing when I did my RB rear bar.
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    Thanks. Found a pic of the differences.


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    Ah, thanks a lot sk8r! That definitely points me in a direction, for sure. I woud've replied earlier, but man I've been ravaged by a nasty flu.

    Ultimately, I'll buy some ES Moog endlinks and test fit my sway bar. I practically have everything minus the white lithium grease, so I'll be able to get some results soon.

    Who knows, maybe I'll make an addendum to the swaybar how-to guide I linked here.

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