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    Quote Originally Posted by Puyapim View Post
    The upcoming CX-X is a wagon from all the photos I’ve seen and a good looking one at that.
    Photos?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dougal View Post
    Photos?


    They’re out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puyapim View Post
    The upcoming CX-X is a wagon from all the photos Ive seen and a good looking one at that.
    I have yet to see any report of the CX-X being anything other than a CX-7 replacement to slot between CX-5 and CX-9. That's SUV/CUV territory no matter what you think you're seeing in the renderings!

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    I have to disagree. There is a big aversion to wagons in the US. VW’s Alltrak and Allroad, Subaru Outback, Mazda CX-9, and a few others are wagons. Today’s wagons are not the giant low slung monsters of yesterday.

    Yes, calling them crossovers lessens the pain. For me, a SUV is a body on frame build or a large body vehicle like the Yukon, Expedition, Sequoia etc. That is just my thinking.

    The 3 seat wagon crossover market is growing and the CX-X should be in the running if Mazda does it right.

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    If my 4 year old has to use her knees to get herself into the car then in my eyes is not a wagon. She was able to step into the mazda3 when she was 3 but has to climb into the RDX and the CX-5.

    I was in the market for a wagon before I got the CX-5 (I traded in the Mazda3 hatch) but no matter what brand the wagon was more expensive than the sedan version AND the equivalent sized CUV.

    3 Series Sport wagon starts at 44,600.
    X3 is 42,650.
    Plain ole 330 is $42,250 with xdrive.

    I don't think many would pay more for a smaller car (non-sport car) within the same brand. When I bought the Mazda3 the HB version was only a few hundred more than the sedan.

    If the wagon was priced the same as the CUV I would have taken the wagon but I'm just one of those that would also take a mini-van over a 3 row cross-over
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimcorner View Post
    If my 4 year old has to use her knees to get herself into the car then in my eyes is not a wagon. She was able to step into the mazda3 when she was 3 but has to climb into the RDX and the CX-5.

    I was in the market for a wagon before I got the CX-5 (I traded in the Mazda3 hatch) but no matter what brand the wagon was more expensive than the sedan version AND the equivalent sized CUV.

    3 Series Sport wagon starts at 44,600.
    X3 is 42,650.
    Plain ole 330 is $42,250 with xdrive.

    I don't think many would pay more for a smaller car (non-sport car) within the same brand. When I bought the Mazda3 the HB version was only a few hundred more than the sedan.

    If the wagon was priced the same as the CUV I would have taken the wagon but I'm just one of those that would also take a mini-van over a 3 row cross-over

    An interesting way of differentiating between a wagon and anything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puyapim View Post
    An interesting way of differentiating between a wagon and anything else.
    Well that's what I use and it generally works. I don't have hard fast rules for minor things in life like classing a car. I could very well change my mind on how to categorize something and I'm cool with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puyapim View Post
    I have to disagree. There is a big aversion to wagons in the US. VWs Alltrak and Allroad, Subaru Outback, Mazda CX-9, and a few others are wagons. Todays wagons are not the giant low slung monsters of yesterday. .
    Depends on where you live. There have been a boatload of Outbacks everywhere I've lived for the past 20 years [mountains/snow zones]. The much more expensive marques, too. Many factors go into a buying decision, not just general body style/shape.

    That's the first time I've heard anyone call the CX-9 a "wagon". A lot of people [most?] would call it a CUV [crossover] -- a unibody, tall, AWD vehicle-- the thing in between a tall body-on frame-4WD "real" SUV and a "wagon".

    The more choices the better!

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    The Outback has gotten taller and taller over the years, with the seating position becoming more upright too. From 2009 on, you could almost call it a crossover. That's probably why it still sells well. I've only seen one Alltrack on the road ever, and part of the problem with it is that it's a bit overpriced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RG_Flyer View Post
    CX-5 or Wagon. Whichever they deem suitable for a manual transmission.
    Hell to the yes brotha!

    AWD Mazda 6 wagon with a stick...sign me up!

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