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    Arrow Please recommend me a great all season tire that good in snow for P225 / 65R17

    Quote Originally Posted by nosey74 View Post
    Hi. Thanks for your response - greatly appreciated!

    What kind of tires do you have on your CX-5? Are they 17" or did the 2016 GT AWD come with larger wheels?

    Do you or anyone you know have the General AltiMAX™ RT43 tires and if so, what has been experience overall? I've never heard of them before. I was leaning towards the Bridgestone Dueler H/L 422 Ecopia but not sure after reading all the reviews.
    My 2016 CX-5 GT AWD comes with 225/55R19 tires.

    Akron, Ohio based General Tire was founded in 1915 and its tire and rubber division was sold to Germany's Continental in 1987, and is now known as Continental Tire North America, Inc. That’s why some new General tires are having similar specs with Continental tires.

    And just to clarify, for 225/65R17 on General AltiMAX™ RT43 there's only “102H” available now even at TireRack.com. Some of the talks here on T rated are out of date. 225/65R17 102T RT43 actually is a completely different tire from H rated and has the same specs as Continental TrueContact™ 225/65R17 102T. The maximum inflation pressures between 51 psi on H rated and 44 psi on T rated is a clear indication that T rated RT43 is an older design, hence it’s discontinued.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesKJSVTCX-5 View Post
    Tons of comparison

    http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article...-Tyre-Test.htm

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    After looking at everything, I'm probably going to go with the Celsius. This is due to a combo of snow, treadlife, noise, and dry performance.

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    Hummm ????? Must have more agressive all weather drivers in the EU than here.
    Tests across the pond rate them overall near or last out of 10 tires tested a couple times.
    The Flotation speed (Hydroplaning MPH) of about 40 mph scares me more than the long stopping distance, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unobtanium View Post
    After looking at everything, I'm probably going to go with the Celsius. This is due to a combo of snow, treadlife, noise, and dry performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unobtanium View Post
    After looking at everything, I'm probably going to go with the Celsius. This is due to a combo of snow, treadlife, noise, and dry performance.
    Honestly have to say I haven't been too impressed by what I've been reading about the all-weather tires. At best they seem like they are better in snow than all-seasons, but that's about it. Not too impressed by the rest of their performance stats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ColoradoDriver View Post
    Honestly have to say I haven't been too impressed by what I've been reading about the all-weather tires. At best they seem like they are better in snow than all-seasons, but that's about it. Not too impressed by the rest of their performance stats.
    Yeah :/

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    I've kindof done a 180*. I drive a lot, and do encounter snow, and ice, but the limited treadlife of the "all weather" tires, and the reviews I've read on Nokian's own website tell me they aren't what I need. People still say they slide sideways at stopsigns on glare ice, even with the WRG3 SUV tires, so I'm not going to be getting what I want, and I'll pay in every other area, as you note, so it makes sense just to stick with a good, long-wearing all-season. My CrossContact LX20's did me a solid over the last 50K miles, but I think I may well try the Trucontacts.






    Also advantageous for vehicles like ours without staggered tires, is that the symmetric tread offers more rotation options for longer and more balanced treadlife.
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    I may try those or those Altimax tires.

    Or I may get some winters (I got caught out in it yet again this past weekend), and then something more performance oriented for summer.

    I don't know...

    Decisions, decisions.
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    With a good set of snows, our CX-5s are like snowmobiles! Do it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by minnesotaart View Post
    With a good set of snows, our CX-5s are like snowmobiles! Do it!
    I've come to the conclusion that snow tires are worthless. My LX20's handled snow like a boss, and I got 50K+ out of them, but NOTHING works on ice short of metal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColoradoDriver View Post
    I may try those or those Altimax tires.

    Or I may get some winters (I got caught out in it yet again this past weekend), and then something more performance oriented for summer.

    I don't know...

    Decisions, decisions.
    Altimax isn't rated that well though, and costs more than better tires.

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    General Altimax sounds like something you would put on your grandmas chevy malibu grocery getter..

    If you want performance, get Yokohamas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GJ-Molestor View Post
    General Altimax sounds like something you would put on your grandmas chevy malibu grocery getter..

    If you want performance, get Yokohamas.
    Yokohamas kindof suck though. WHy would you use them? All of my SUV's have had either Continental Cross Contact LX20, or Destination LE2 tires. Ice braking is literally the only shortcoming I've ever noticed, and I'm using LX20's right now, and will transition back to LE2's in a week or so (for the alleged increase in ice braking). The Yoko's suck and I got rid of them the first 2 weeks I owned this thing.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Unobtanium View Post
    Yokohamas kindof suck though. WHy would you use them? All of my SUV's have had either Continental Cross Contact LX20, or Destination LE2 tires. Ice braking is literally the only shortcoming I've ever noticed, and I'm using LX20's right now, and will transition back to LE2's in a week or so (for the alleged increase in ice braking). The Yoko's suck and I got rid of them the first 2 weeks I owned this thing.



    The yoko geolanders OEM tire for the CX-5 is shit. Yokos actual performance tires are really good such as the advan a83a, Avid envigor, advan sport, etc. I also have ice guard winter tires which are also very good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unobtanium View Post
    Altimax isn't rated that well though, and costs more than better tires.
    Really? Over here they are like $100.

    But not my first choice, I agree.
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