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    The College-Budget P5

    Hello Folks! I'm Riot Polizei, a college student in his twenties who seeks to document maintenance and upgrades here from time to time. Pleased to meet you! I look forward to many positive exchanges of information.

    Not too long ago, my last car, a 91' 4WD Suzuki Sidekick, died. No matter how much part replacing or wrench turning I did, I couldn't save the ol girl :^(

    More on the Zook here

    RIP



    I was fortunate, since the ashes of my Zook raised the (sunburst yellow) rose I now own.

    Up from the ashes...


    I was damn lucky. I picked it up at 119k miles with most of the needed service around this time already being done (most importantly the clutch). The paint is brand spanking new, the rims have minimal guttering damage, and it runs like a brand new car.

    The transition from a offroader to a sportier, lower ride was somewhat jarring. Bumps began to matter, I could accelerate faster than a snail, and I could take corners at a thrilling pace! Aside from ride quality, I was shocked at how dialed in the gearbox felt. Compared to the somewhat floaty or boat-like Suzuki gearbox (in which you could somehow slide the gearshifter into BOTH 3rd and 5th at the same time...), there was little play. It felt great.

    Upon really taking a shine to this car, I knew I wanted to do some fun things with this car. Not super fun things, since I don't have a lot of money to throw around, but simple things that'll either improve standard features or improve performance.


    For organizational purposes, I'll have two lists for upcoming tasks, both soon and far-off. One will be a "MAINTENANCE" list, and the other will be a "MODIFICATIONS" list. The mod list may also double as a wishlist, since I'm broke as shit.
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    To Do (in no specific order):

    MAINTENANCE:
    • Replace both rear tirewell splash shields (one is broken, other missing)


    MODIFICATIONS:
    • Install Trailing Links

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    UPDATE (1/15/2018)
    • "Fixed" fast windshield wiper fluid leak; removed list item
    • Headlight functioning for now, ground appeared fine; removed list item
    • Added crashbar inspection


    UPDATE (1/16/2018)
    • Replaced "Investigate mechanical groan/creak in tirewell areas" with "Replace front passenger-side tie rod ball joint and boot"


    UPDATE (1/17/2018)
    • Temporarily removed the HID upgrade from "modifications"


    UPDATE (1/25/2018)
    • Removed "Replace missing tirewell rivets and bolts"
    • Removed "Inspect crashbar behind bumper and surrounding body frame"
    • Removed "Investigate horn relay and/or replace horn"
    • Removed "Short Ram Air Intake(?)"
    • Added a "quick navigation" list of all major updates so far (and for ones to come)


    UPDATE (2/2/2018)
    • Removed "Do something about my pulsating brakes..."
    • Changed "Replace front passenger-side tie rod ball joint and boot" to "Replace tie rods"
    • Removed "Purchase adjustable endlinks"
    • Added "Replace rear endlinks (fronts?)"


    UPDATE (2/26/2018)
    • Removed "Replace rear endlinks (fronts)?
    • Updated "Install rear swaybar" to include " + rear ES endlinks"


    UPDATE (3/29/2018)
    • Removed "Buy a cat-back exhaust system"
    • Added "Perform the Mazda6 "big brake" upgrade"


    UPDATE (5/8/2018)
    • Added "Replace driver-side front wheel bearing"


    UPDATE (5/19/2018)
    • Removed "Replace driver-side front wheel bearing"
    • Removed "Replace tie rods"
    • Removed "Eliminate rattle beneath CD player"--I tripped while entering my car and banged my knee into the center console. While it smarted, I realized that the weird rattles stopped. This happened about 2 weeks ago.


    Update (6/3/2018)
    • Added: Replace pulsating brakes
    • Added: Fix E-brake cable(s?)


    Update (6/16/2018)
    • Removed: Replace pulsating brakes
    • Perform the Mazda6 "big brake" upgrade
    • Fix E-brake cable(s?)


    Update (6/29/2018)
    • Removed: Replace bashed-up lower grille
    • Clean the engine bay, check vacuum lines for rotting/wear


    Update (7/10/2018)
    • Added: Install new radiator, fan shroud, and hoses


    Update (7/13/2018)
    • Removed: Install new radiator, fan shroud, and hoses


    Update (8/9/2018)
    • Added: "Replace entire pre-cat exhaust system"


    Update (8/21/2018)
    • Removed: Replace entire pre-cat exhaust system
    • Added: Fix header->midpipe exhaust leak


    Update (8/25/2018)
    • Changed: Fix header->midpipe exhaust leak to "Fix resonator -> muffler leak"


    Update (9/1/2018)
    • Removed: Fix resonator -> muffler leak


    Update (10/21/2018)
    • Removed foreward regarding swaybar installation
    • Removed: Install rear swaybar + rear ES endlinks


    Update (1/26/2019)
    • Removed color coding for importance
    • Changed Modifications list to reflect projects to be completed relatively soon
    • Removed: Re-finish black trimmings on the car
    • Removed: Replace stone age center console relic with modern radio headunit
    • Removed: Upgrade ignition wires


    Update (3/25/2019)
    • Removed: Begin VTCS removal
    • Added: Install VTCS-less IM
    • Added: Install MP3 ECU


    Update (3/26/2019)
    • Removed: Install VTCS-less IM
    • Removed: Install MP3 ECU

    __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________

    Well, that about does it! Sometime later, I'll upload photos of the current state of things for elaboration.

    I like tinkering, and I'm still learning a lot about the ins and outs of working on cars. Please feel free to give your input at anytime. I can't wait to get some wrenches turning!

    Quick Navigation:

    Post #1: Appraisals and Observations
    https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...=1#post6564677

    Post #2: The Headlight
    https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...=1#post6564851

    Post #3: CEL #1
    https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...=1#post6566018

    Post #4: Junkyard Treasure + The First Mod
    https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...=1#post6567071

    Post #5: Overspray Central (Or How I Inspected My Bumper)
    https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...=1#post6567287

    Post #6: The Rear Valence
    https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...=1#post6567607

    Post #7: February Status Report
    https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...=1#post6568824

    Post #8: The Second Mod
    https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...=1#post6572727

    Post #9: UPDATE: A Better Use for Tax Refund Money
    https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...=1#post6573034

    Post #10: Endlinks and Oil Leaks
    https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...=1#post6574800

    Post #11: Autocross
    https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...=1#post6579721

    Post #12: Cat-Back Exhaust!
    https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...=1#post6581604

    Post #13: The MP3 "Tune" + Seats
    https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...=1#post6585763

    Post #14: CEL #2
    https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...=1#post6588149

    Post #15: More Ups and Downs
    https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...=1#post6589143

    Post #16: The Second Autocross
    https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...=1#post6591338

    Post #17: Sisyphus and the P5
    https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...=1#post6593474

    Post #18: Back in my hands; future plans
    https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...=1#post6595689

    Post #18: Little Update
    https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...=1#post6596789

    Post #19: Cause for concern
    https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...=1#post6597499

    Post #20: Crisis Averted; Minor Facelift
    https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...=1#post6597629

    Post #21: Wheels!
    https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...=1#post6597706

    Post #22: Server Maintenance Update: Cooling Problems
    https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...=1#post6598209

    Post #23: It's Okay!
    https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...=1#post6598403

    Post #24: A Temporary Hardline
    https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...=1#post6598419

    Post #25: Radiator Removal
    https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...=1#post6598624

    Post #26: Ready to Race!
    https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...=1#post6599199

    Post #27: Beginning Treament
    https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...=1#post6600048

    Post #28: BLACK
    https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...=1#post6600540

    Post #29: Approaching oil change round 2
    https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...=1#post6601130

    Post #30: Slightly Less BLACK
    https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...=1#post6601826

    Post #31: Plateaus, Clean Oil, and Exhaust Leaks
    https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...=1#post6602159

    Post #32: Multi-Point Exhaust Leak
    https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...=1#post6602263

    Post #33: Cost Analysis, CARB Rant
    https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...=1#post6602390

    Post #34: Parts Purchased So Far
    https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...=1#post6602742

    Post #35: Shitty Fix, Shitty Conditions
    https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...=1#post6604734

    Post #36: Hangers and Gaskets
    https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...=1#post6605332

    Post #37: Resumed Normality
    https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...=1#post6606312

    Post #38: All Patched Up
    https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...=1#post6608151

    Post #39: October: In With the Change
    https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...=1#post6612943

    Post #40: In For Good...
    https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...=1#post6613143

    Post #41: Mr. Gasket and the Future
    https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...=1#post6613482

    Post #42: CEL #3
    https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...=1#post6624428

    Post #43: Head Stud Nightmare
    https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...=1#post6625351

    Post #44: Trailing Arms
    https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...=1#post6626975

    Post #45: IM Upper-Half and Clips
    https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...=1#post6628634

    Post #46: VTCS Removal: Part 1
    https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...=1#post6630102

    Post #47: Swaybar, Part 2 | Intense Rattling
    https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...=1#post6630944

    Post #48: AutoX: Drivermod
    https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...=1#post6631776

    Post #49: CELs and Crazy Clunks
    https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...=1#post6633220
    Addendum

    Post #50: VTCS Removal: Part 2
    https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...=1#post6635136

    Post #51: VTCS Removal: Part 3 (Plus Extras)
    https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...=1#post6635885

    Post #52: MP3 ECU + VTCS-less IM Installation
    https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...=1#post6637391

    Post #53: CEL #4
    https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...=1#post6637646

    Post #54: P0171: The Plan
    https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...=1#post6638929
    Development 1
    Development 2
    Resolution
    Last edited by Riot_Polizei; 04-10-2019 at 12:44 AM.
    2002 Mazda Protege5
    ■ Sunburst Yellow ■ Black Rear Valence ■ Injen Cold Air Intake ■ Racing Beat Catback Exhaust ■ Moog Front Endlinks
    ■ Megan Racing Rear Strut Tower Bar ■ Racing Beat Rear Sway Bar ■ Mazda6 Front Big Brakes ■ Foglight Deletes
    ■ OBX 4-1 Headers ■ MP3 ECU ■ VTCS-less Intake Manifold ■ Mishimoto Aluminum Racing Radiator + Fan Shroud


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    Awesome start man! Looks clean, and I'm partial to the yellow.

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    Thanks! It was indeed a lucky find, with a paintjob like that.

    Hopefully before the end of the day, I'll submit my first batch of pre-modification/maintenance pictures and get this thread rolling.

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    You found a nice one. Are you located in an area that gets snow regularly? Congrats!
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    Looks very clean! Welcome to the best place for P5 knowledge! If you have facebook make sure to join the various Protege pages, lots of great deals and parts are sold pretty often! Keen to see more man

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    Quote Originally Posted by babyluv1 View Post
    You found a nice one. Are you located in an area that gets snow regularly? Congrats!
    Thanks! I do live in the irregularly snowy state of Colorado, so there are definite patches of light to mild rust underneath my car. I plan on doing research on means to combat this in hopes of preserving this car!

    Quote Originally Posted by Taco Cat View Post
    Looks very clean! Welcome to the best place for P5 knowledge! If you have facebook make sure to join the various Protege pages, lots of great deals and parts are sold pretty often! Keen to see more man
    Thank you man, I have a feeling I'll really like this place! I unfortunately don't use facebook anymore, but given the difficulty of finding parts of this car, I might re-activate it to get in the loop of buying parts. Thanks for the tip!

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    Update #1: Appraisals and Observations

    Thanks to today's fairly good weather, I was able to do both my monthly car-cleaning and inspect the various aspects of my vehicle! I began with cleaning my brake dust-littered front wheels. While mildy guttered and scratched, they look really pretty from a distance.



    While cleaning off the rims, I saw that the tires on them were really worn down (partially due to my latest hard-cornering escapades). That's a new item on the maintenance list.

    With the wheels cleaned off, I proceeded to document the missing clips in my tirewell. There were a surprising amount missing, but not as surprising as the damage the splashguards suffered. This car had to have either been in a fender-bender, or it had been scraped really badly at one point.

    Front passenger-side tirewell; missing clips:


    More missing clips on same side:


    Damaged tirewell end (not sure how this should be oriented):


    And, I believe I identified the source of the mysterious clunk in my tirewell area. Upon removing the front passenger-side wheel, I saw that the boot on the end of my was collapsed and was leaking grease. I don't know how long this was as it was, but I do know that I have another item on my maintenance list.


    The story was the same on the driver-side tirewell (minus blown boots), but the wheel well panel itself wasn't in nearly as bad as shape as the other side. All I know is that I need to order a ton of clips to keep the front-end intact.

    The worst of the front driver-side tirewell panel:


    As for the rear of the car, things were also somewhat sketchy.

    My rear driver-side tirewell had a badly bashed up splash shield...:


    ...While the rear passenger-side tirewell's splash shield was completely missing!:


    In otherwords, my rear bumper was held together by prayers and good will. It, too, was missing several clips. Furthermore, my right-side swaybar bushing looked pretty worse for wear, so that could also be a source of some clunking. I didn't take a clear picture, unfortunately, but that'll be fixed really soon, given how I'm lined up for a replacement.

    As for my front driver-side quarter panel, I have an obvious separation between it and the bumper:


    Given how the previous owner got the cheapest paintjob possible, I figured that the crew responsible for the paintjob forgot a clip or two.

    ...And funnily enough, they didn't! it just wasn't looped between the bumper and quarter panel properly (kind of hard to see, but the clip is sticking out of the quarter panel and not going through the bumper's slot):


    Thankfully, these will be relatively inexpensive and quick fixes. I'm inquiring down at the local Pay n' Pull for Protege5 panels and looking for places to buy clips, so wish me luck!

    As for the engine bay, the most notable thing is the missing ram air scoop. I've been asked by a few folks why a random tube is jutting out of the bay...:


    ...But the absolute worst discovery out of all of them was that I have a slow oil leak at the bottom of my transaxle. Damn, and here I was thinking I was done with leaking cars!


    I just might be crazy enough to try and contact an old pal of mine to see if he's willing to lend a hand (and an engine hoist)...

    Well, all these things are to be expected on a car this old. I was surprised at the strong lack of ziptie """"fixes"""", since my old Zook was practically held together with them.

    At the end of the day, the only thing I really "fixed" was my windshield wiper reservoir leak. By "fixed", I mean that I must've been seeing things, as after peeling back the tirewell guard and watching it as it was filled up, nothing leaked! I even went back a few hours later to double-check, and I found not a puddle nor moisture on the inside of the panel. I guess I was imagining things...So, I suppose that's a positive.

    Well, looks like I gotta start saving for these parts now!
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    The Headlight

    It wouldn't be a Protege if it didn't maintain a steady diet of bulbs.

    ...sigh:


    So I popped the hood and decided to give it a good jiggle. In the past, I've knocked on the side of the headlight housing, or jiggled the headlight through the rubber gasket with some success (last time it stayed on for a month!). It wasn't happening this time, so I took a deeper look and documented what happened:


    It was most likely a bad connective issue as opposed to a bad ground, I figured. Even then, when I took it out of the headlight housing and left it in the engine bay, it didn't even flicker!


    So, I turned off the power, and removed the bulb to inspect the plug. Here, my problem was made clear to me.


    Not only were both prongs far too open to maintain a grip on the bulb's male connectors, but they were also filled with gunk. The bottom-most connector appeared to be scored pretty badly as well, which makes me wonder about the headlight's wiring harness. Perhaps I do have a ground issue after all?

    For now, the problem is """"solved"""". I cleaned out the connector, re-shaped its prongs, and my car has all its eyes again.


    I still can't wait until I retrofit this car with some HID projector housing and bulbs...
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    Ok, so going by those photos, I think I know why the paint "looks good".

    And I don't want to say this, but....
    ...it looks like the car has been hit bad enough for the inner guards to be damaged like that. Then there was a quick spray job (didn't even bother to mask), and a FOR SALE sign put on it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JazzySP20 View Post
    Ok, so going by those photos, I think I know why the paint "looks good".

    And I don't want to say this, but....
    ...it looks like the car has been hit bad enough for the inner guards to be damaged like that. Then there was a quick spray job (didn't even bother to mask), and a FOR SALE sign put on it.

    Yessir, everything you said is definitely true. I didn't even post pictures of the front radiator air deflector or the driver-side underside of the tirewall, but it certainly was crashed up badly!

    Don't worry about what you say about the car--it is a project for me, after all! It runs really nicely, and I'm hoping to restore the body to what it once was. I'm going to inspect the crashbar and the body around it to ensure I won't be wasting money on new panels, so stay tuned for an update!

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    Cel #1

    My car's CEL turned on for the first time today. So long as it's not flashing, it'll be another learning experience for me.

    I drove into Autozone to borrow a code reader, and the car threw the "P0171 Adaptive Fuel Trim Too Lean (Bank 1)" code. Looks like my MAF is either dirty or going out!

    I decided to try the cheap option first, and buy some "MAFS cleaner". There's most likely a cheaper option than that, but I got to drive this thing again soon. What I wonder, though, is why this light didn't come on sooner. I noticed that my MPG was taking a hit lately, but I chalked it up to spirited driving. Guess I was wrong!

    I'll upload some images of the maintenance tomorrow, and post about any updates.

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    Here's the list of potential causes of that code if it comes back.

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    That'll come in handy! Thanks man, I really appreciate it!

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    You might want to change your fuel filter (fuel pump housing).
    They're not too much money and a clogged one can cause a P0171 code.

    Screenshot_2018-01-21-11-47-43

    I did a how to about it... (pics are at the end)


    https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...cs)&highlight=
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    I really appreciate your help! That's a really good thread you wrote too, and given how I've yet to mess around with a car's fuel system or fuel tank, it'll really come in handy. The previous owner didn't have a lot of paperwork on maintenance and repair, so I don't see why I shouldn't change out the filter.

    Thanks a bunch!

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