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    Thank you for your suggestion. We will be sure to do that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ddtigger1 View Post
    Not necessarily true, (about the chips) while talegateing is bad, yes true sure.. However I do not tailgate I have several chips in my paint as well. I do fell the Mazda paint is to thin or too soft. How many of you got the sales pitch for their clear bra services.. I feel they do this as they know the paint is thin.

    My red Ď96 BMW has much fewer chips on it vs. my one year old CX 5..
    Back in the 90s Japanese manufacturers switched to waterborne low VOC paints that aren't as chip resistant. In the 2000's US manufacturers switched too. IIRC German manufacturers are still using solvent based paints that have more chip resistance - the auto industry there has great sway over government regulation. Of course, if you're in the US and need your car repainted they'll may do it with waterborne due to EPA rules making it difficult to find high VOC paints.

    http://www.carwashmag.com/home/artic...9e28efd60.html

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    Yeah. My black CX-5 is riddled with paint chips/marks all over the hood. Just the nature of the beast if you don't put some kind of protection on it.

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    Nearly two years old, 19,800 miles. Zero chips in paint or windshield. Maybe road conditions in your area???????? Or maybe the white is more durable?????

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    Some folks are so judgy.
    "Don't tailgate!"
    Really?
    I was on the freeway the other day in a section that was being redone. It had those grooves in the road where they had just stripped the concrete. One lane wasn't grooved yet so I was in that lane for awhile. Move right to the grooved section and there's a semi-truck pretty far in front of me... suddenly I hear *ting ting ting ting ting ting ting* omg.... shit hitting my car.
    I was nowhere near tailgating.
    This was just last Friday,
    I haven't inspected the hood yet.
    I'm afraid to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by craigo View Post
    Back in the 90s Japanese manufacturers switched to waterborne low VOC paints that aren't as chip resistant. In the 2000's US manufacturers switched too. IIRC German manufacturers are still using solvent based paints that have more chip resistance - the auto industry there has great sway over government regulation. Of course, if you're in the US and need your car repainted they'll may do it with waterborne due to EPA rules making it difficult to find high VOC paints.

    http://www.carwashmag.com/home/artic...9e28efd60.html
    Mazda switched to water based painting technologies around 2009. I have found that the new paint is not as durable as the solvent based paints from the 70's-90's.

    Here is Mazda's link to their painting technologies.
    http://www.mazda.com/en/innovation/t...er/paint_tech/
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    Quote Originally Posted by mazdadude View Post
    Mazda switched to water based painting technologies around 2009. I have found that the new paint is not as durable as the solvent based paints from the 70's-90's.

    Here is Mazda's link to their painting technologies.
    http://www.mazda.com/en/innovation/t...er/paint_tech/
    Seems like there's also a tradeoff in formula goals where coatings that are chip durable are more prone to swirl marks during routine washing

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    Makes me want to go get a clear bra coating thing now....

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    Washed the car tonight. Not as bad as it sounded. Just a couple dings.
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    Does this work? Does that office at Mazda really help to resolve issues like this? That would be an awesome lead!

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    Hmm... This is disconcerting. I recently noticed chips in the hood of my Soul Red Crystal Metallic 2017 CX5 and I'm not happy to hear it may be a paint flaw...

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    I was in the motor industry all through the 70s, 80s & 90s before the introduction of modern paint technologies and cars were much worse for stone chips than they are now. Not only that but the metal underneath wasn’t treated like it is now so it almost immediately started with ugly spots of rust. We had big fleets of company cars and anything over about a year old was peppered with stone chips and rust spots with very few exceptions.

    People are very critical of modern paint but certainly in Europe, most cars had metal or black plastic bumpers/fenders and if you tried to bend and flex a painted version like a modern painted fender, the paint would just crack and lift straight off. It’s astonishing just how durable these modern paints are.

    It’s up to each of us to decide how close to get to the vehicle in front but I’m sorry, if you can hear bits of debris hitting your car from something in front, you are too close to it. What is harder to avoid is anything that comes from a vehicle coming towards you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RKinMTL View Post
    Hmm... This is disconcerting. I recently noticed chips in the hood of my Soul Red Crystal Metallic 2017 CX5 and I'm not happy to hear it may be a paint flaw...
    It isnít a paint flaw, that is nonsense. Paint doesnít chip on its own but you donít always hear what chipped it. There is guidance in the owners manual about what causes chipping and the paint chipping zone at only 56mph is 50m/164ft. That doesnít mean you mustnít get that close, it means that if you do you are in the area where debris from the vehicle in front is still in motion and if you are unlucky, something will chip it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Anchorman View Post

    It’s up to each of us to decide how close to get to the vehicle in front but I’m sorry, if you can hear bits of debris hitting your car from something in front, you are too close to it. What is harder to avoid is anything that comes from a vehicle coming towards you.
    That semi that was dragging a cloud of debris behind it was so far from me, it was ridiculous. You could have fit 10 cars between us. It isn't always a case of following to closely. Shit happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 7eregrine View Post
    That semi that was dragging a cloud of debris behind it was so far from me, it was ridiculous. You could have fit 10 cars between us. It isn't always a case of following to closely. Shit happens.
    10 CX-5 lengths is 150 feet. The quote from Mazda above says chip range at 56 MPH is 164 feet. So your idea of a ridiculous following distance is less than the recommended distance.

    I also agree with Anchorman, is that if you are following closely enough for rock chips to hit you, you are at risk of hitting more dangerous things from that vehicle.
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