A. What kind of CX-9 owner is going to be doing this sort of nonsense
B. Off road potential largely depends on tires and their grip
C. In the second test on the grassy s***, notice how he purposely slowed down and killed any momentum he had? Yea... stupid test on so many different levels.
Focusing on edge cases is not what manufacturers do folks. There's not a vehicle out there that can't be put in a bad situation. Even so, if you look at the followup video Mazda responds with an explanation that makes perfect sense to anyone who understands how drive systems and TCS do/don't work together.
If you want to go off-road or test vehicles in situations with one or more wheels off the ground, then there's no substitute for lockers and limited slip differentials. Some TCS systems will "fool" your differential by stopping the wheel spin, but that's a poor substitute since they only work AFTER the wheel starts spinning. You won't see serious off-roaders depending on TCS to keep them going. LOL
As for the other 99% of CX-9 buyers that will never do something as stupid as this video shows, they will be just fine with the vehicle as delivered.
BTW, I hate the crazy-aggressive braking from the TCS in my 2008 CX-9 as it has almost gotten me t-boned numerous times pulling out in slippery conditions. Hopefully the newer systems are better.
This does nothing to dissuade my interest in the CX-9. I understand what Mazda's priorities are and it's not riding on 2-3 wheels.
Sad to read the YouTube comments. I love how people who will never perform such off road maneuvers completely write it off. Meanwhile 90% of Wrangler owners don't even go off road. The CX-9 does great in the snow but people think the CX-9 will be useless because it can't articulate in a nearly roll-over scenario.
10% of Jeep owners use it for off-road? What a bunch of dumbasses...
That's the interesting thing about the Wrangler. It is specifically designed for off road which makes it the worse on road vehicle you can buy. Yet the vast majority of owners just use it as a typical commuter.
How come they did not install LSDs on the rear of the CX-9? I think the Mazdaspeed 6 had it.
Jeeps are POS, both on and off road.
They are the Kaiser Soze of automobiles.
Sometimes, car manufacturers do dumb things. For Toyota, killing the FJ Cruiser instead of bringing it into the 21st century by improving it was one of them.
Woe! If I've just got to go off road, then I would want to be in a Jeep, hands down. It crawls over everything, plows through water like a submarine and takes it all in stride. Else, it would be a 4Runner Pro on 17s. A bit more comfort, better fuel economy and much better appearance on the road. Unfortunately, Toyota, instead of making the FJ Cruiser better (improving it) they decided to kill it. I would have preferred the FJ Cruiser's styling and off road capabilities to the Jeep. However, it also suffered from really bad fuel Econ as well - but boy, it could climb nearly anything.
Sometimes, car manufacturers do dumb things. For Toyota, killing the FJ Cruiser instead of bringing it into the 21st century by improving it was one of them.
Toyota obviously killed the FJ for a reason. They wouldn’t just stop production of a car that meets sales requirements.
Woe! If I've just got to go off road, then I would want to be in a Jeep, hands down. It crawls over everything, plows through water like a submarine and takes it all in stride. Else, it would be a 4Runner Pro on 17s. A bit more comfort, better fuel economy and much better appearance on the road. Unfortunately, Toyota, instead of making the FJ Cruiser better (improving it) they decided to kill it. I would have preferred the FJ Cruiser's styling and off road capabilities to the Jeep. However, it also suffered from really bad fuel Econ as well - but boy, it could climb nearly anything.
Sometimes, car manufacturers do dumb things. For Toyota, killing the FJ Cruiser instead of bringing it into the 21st century by improving it was one of them.