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Thread: Popping Under slight break while slowing down- CV joints?

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    Popping Under slight break while slowing down- CV joints?

    I have a 2003 Mazda Familia (protege5 in the United States)(US Military Stationed in Okinawa Japan). It has less than 42,000 miles on it and about 7K of those are from me. I drive fairly aggressive and this issue has been slowly getting worse.

    There is an audible popping during easy breaking while slowing down. It slows with my speed and only appears while pressing the break. I have had it on a lift and checked ball joint, tie-rods, etc and nothing seems loose. I replaced the breaks when I first got the car and checked during this inspection; nothing is loose on the calipers, the pads are solid with no movement that I can tell, the rotors are not warped and do not move.

    I am leaning toward CV joints being bad but there is no popping under acceleration while turning or going straight. Both boots are good. No bushings underneath seem deteriorated. And, I have no knowledge of any past issues or maintenance that was done to the car.

    I have posted a video; after the 2 minute mark, a lot of the background noise dies and you can REALLY hear to true sound of the popping.

    Just looking for ideas before I go spending money on parts. CV axles are not cheap here.

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    https://youtu.be/lrfD5-v_H5s

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    Umm the only other thing I'd check would be the lower control arm bushings! But I think that it seems like the axles since they make the noise while you're moving

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    Strut bearings and strut mount bushings. Mine was doing the exact same thing. I replaced em. Noise gone. Jack the car up get weight off the mounts, then try again. If noise is gone more than likely bushings and bearings for ur struts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terrywood23 View Post
    I have a 2003 Mazda Familia (protege5 in the United States)(US Military Stationed in Okinawa Japan). It has less than 42,000 miles on it and about 7K of those are from me. I drive fairly aggressive and this issue has been slowly getting worse.

    There is an audible popping during easy breaking while slowing down. It slows with my speed and only appears while pressing the break. I have had it on a lift and checked ball joint, tie-rods, etc and nothing seems loose. I replaced the breaks when I first got the car and checked during this inspection; nothing is loose on the calipers, the pads are solid with no movement that I can tell, the rotors are not warped and do not move.

    I am leaning toward CV joints being bad but there is no popping under acceleration while turning or going straight. Both boots are good. No bushings underneath seem deteriorated. And, I have no knowledge of any past issues or maintenance that was done to the car.

    I have posted a video; after the 2 minute mark, a lot of the background noise dies and you can REALLY hear to true sound of the popping.

    Just looking for ideas before I go spending money on parts. CV axles are not cheap here.

    Thanks!

    https://youtu.be/lrfD5-v_H5s
    That is your text book symptom of a bad CV. If you don't have those, they're not likely to be the problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pcb View Post
    I suppose he could remove his axles and get his friends to push the car...

    Then he could use his "brake" to stop it ???

    (I have been drinking)
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    But the video he's standing still....not moving so not technically while braking.....he could release brake and use parking brake or even just in park and see if noise is still there. I doubt it's axles just because the fact that they are not really doing much aside from front to back motion.

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    Thanks for the feedback. Changed the swaybar end links this weekend (cheap, available, and known to make popping noises). The popping that was present while the car was still while just turning the tires is better but still present. I think there are/were several things bad.

    Quote Originally Posted by Derty_rabbit View Post
    But the video he's standing still....not moving so not technically while braking.....he could release brake and use parking brake or even just in park and see if noise is still there. I doubt it's axles just because the fact that they are not really doing much aside from front to back motion.
    Popping only present while applying break.... it's weird. I was thinking CV axle because the joints change position as the axle spins and it made sense in my mind that a worn or rusty u-joint could "bind" and make a similar noise but not 100% sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terrywood23 View Post
    Thanks for the feedback. Changed the swaybar end links this weekend (cheap, available, and known to make popping noises). The popping that was present while the car was still while just turning the tires is better but still present. I think there are/were several things bad.



    Popping only present while applying break.... it's weird. I was thinking CV axle because the joints change position as the axle spins and it made sense in my mind that a worn or rusty u-joint could "bind" and make a similar noise but not 100% sure.
    All is possible. Imma see if I can get mine to do it, I'll swap the mounts and send a clip u can be the judge

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    I used to work at a speed shop in Yomiton out past tori station unfortunately me nor the shop is there anymore enjoy your time there I miss it everyday!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haasdaddy18 View Post
    I used to work at a speed shop in Yomiton out past tori station unfortunately me nor the shop is there anymore enjoy your time there I miss it everyday!!!
    Do you know if the Mazda Familia (Japanese version) and Protege5 have the same/compatible parts?

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    No I'm sorry I do not you may check with one of the auto hobby shops on base they may know. What kind of parts are you wondering about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haasdaddy18 View Post
    No I'm sorry I do not you may check with one of the auto hobby shops on base they may know. What kind of parts are you wondering about?
    https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...S-part-numbers

    That the link to another post I made that has all the parts.

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    Thanks for all the input.

    I have found that the right CV Axle was the cause of the popping during breaking. The sway bar end links and right outer tie rod end was the source of the popping while turning. None of the boots were torn nor was there play in the joint but when I cut open and looked I found that the ball slot edges were not smooth.

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    wow, the EXACT same thing just started happening to me on my P5 today. exact same sound...how do you tell which side is bad without cutting the boot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrathofpaul View Post
    wow, the EXACT same thing just started happening to me on my P5 today. exact same sound...how do you tell which side is bad without cutting the boot?
    Just do both...it's cheap. (but you'll probably need a sledge to get the axle outta the hub)
    Both sides are probably close to worn out.

    This is Canadian dollars... You guys pay like, seven bucks...

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